Posted on February 14 at 3:30 a.m.

Yet, fellow FBI translator Malek Can Dickerson, who had encouraged Sibel to join the ATC, was suppressing intelligence Edmonds was uncovering regarding these front groups and their relationship to "certain allies and American business interests" in deference to the very organizations that the FBI had under investigation.

One can look back at the names mentioned in this criminal activity and notice that many of the players were involved in the more glamorous stories in the news over the past years. Armitage (MIC Inc./PNAC) leaking the name of a CIA operative who was investigating arms trafficking to Iran and Feith and Perle (IA Inc./PNAC) who were instrumental in the invasion of Iraq and who are pushing for an attack on Iran are just three of the most notorious examples.

One other thing I want to point out is the sorry state of affairs when it comes to the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) Unit database which is maintained by the Dept. of Justice. This database contains the "who and how much" when it comes to "foreign investment" in exchange for representation in DeeCeeVille.

Luke Ryland (wotisitgood4.blogspot.com), who has done some remarkable and detailed work on the Edmonds story, pointed out on his blog that the "huge database that serves as the public's lone window on lobbying activities by foreign governments has been allowed to decay to a point they cannot even make a copy of its contents" according to a report by the Center for Public Integrity in June of '04. Even worse, as far as we know, that system is still operating on Windows 95. So much for investing in technology to fight the "war on terror."

Sibel stated in an interview back in late '05 that "You can start from the AIPAC angle. You can start from the Plame case. You can start from my case. They all end up going to the same place, and they revolve around the same nucleus of people. There may be a lot of them, but it is one group. And they are very dangerous for all of us."

I can't think of a better reason to take back the Congress.

Source: http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/opedn...

Sibel Edmonds was born in Turkey. You can find more info on the US-Turkish "underground" activities, which obviously relates to the Turkish bribes of US officials when it comes to denying the AG...on youtube and in other sources.

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Posted on February 14 at 3:26 a.m.

One other firm I want to point out is the neo-con group, M.I.C. Industries Inc. who boast of some "Ultimate Building Machine" on their web site (it was worth a $60 million contract with Russia back in '97). Their board consists of amongst others, William Cohen (Cohen Group/ATC) and Richard Armitage (PNAC/Valerie Plame outing) and is headed up by one Michael Ansari who once teamed up with Alexander Haig in a corporation called US-CIS Venture Inc. which was established to assist in "developments" in Central Asia as well as establishing oil and gas pipeline projects through the region. M.I.C. Inc. is also one of the Livingston Group's top clients.

These are some of the "business interests" I believe Edmonds' was speaking of and here's why.

Enormous amounts of money are being funneled to top government officials and certain businesses whose members consist of former Defense Dept. officials, State Dept. officials and conservative think tanks that have a common interest in Turkey and Israel (in this case) and other countries that play a strategic part in a geo-political "business" plan. However, this money is not coming from those particular governments in question.

Currently, according to former CIA agent Philip Giraldi, there is an investigation into Israel's illegal sale of U.S. military technology to countries like China and India. The companies mentioned in this article also have ties to the defense industry through their members' history in government service – who also share close ties with Turkish front groups (as well as an alliance with AIPAC and JINSA) currently under investigation by the FBI. That these Turkish groups would be involved in the same illegal sales with the aid of the aforementioned businesses is not that difficult of a dot to connect as it definitely reflects the "can of worms" that Edmonds' superiors at the FBI did not want opened. It's also worth mentioning that Turkey is a large hub in the drugs coming out of Afghanistan and Edmonds has alluded to the drug trade in her past statements.

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Posted on February 14 at 3:25 a.m.

On June 3, 2003, Hastert's political action committee held a $1500 a plate fundraiser at Jack Abramoff's restaurant where he received large donations from, among others, one Duane R. Gibson. Gibson is a consultant with the Livingston Group who has been lobbying on behalf of Turkey for about six years at the cost of $1.2 million a year. The only problem is that the money is not coming from the Turkish government and of course the FBI wants to know exactly who is shelling out all the dough. This is what Edmonds refers to as "business as usual" and what is behind the façade in all of this is obviously so threatening, that the government felt it necessary to implement an extraordinary gag order on Sibel and threaten members of her family.

Admittedly, the American – Turkish "connection" doesn't make for glamorous news when put up against Iraq, Iran or North Korea but many of the players in those headlines are also involved with Turkey. And if there was an active, inquisitive and motivated Congress in DeeCeeVille right now then people might recognize the threat that so far remains under the radar.

Sibel stated many times that when certain intelligence regarding illegal activities (drug or illegal arms trafficking etc.) which benefited alleged terrorist sponsors and that same intelligence also implicated "certain allies or business interests" then that intelligence was not passed on to counter-terrorism agents in the field. Turkish front groups under surveillance by the FBI (ATC and ATAA) were making large payments to officials high up in the government as well as lobbyists with connections to some of these same officials. These same groups were also nuzzling up to groups like AIPAC who had a mutual desire to embrace certain business interests that could enhance their pursuit of intelligence, influence and aid against common enemies.

With the rise to power of the neo-conservatives years ago and their drive to secure dominance in the Middle East, these front groups found new opportunities now that the American government was infiltrated with many of their "business partners." Douglass Feith and Richard Perle (PNAC), infamous for their push into Iraq, were also recipients of hundreds of thousands of dollars from Turkish interests prior to joining the Bush Gang.

Other groups with long ties to Turkey as well as upper offices in the government consist of the aforementioned Livingston Group, Solarz & Associates, and The Cohen Group. All three are top members of the American Turkish Council with Vice Chairman of The Cohen Group, Joseph Ralston, sitting on their board of advisors. Getting pretty tangled up, huh?

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Posted on February 14 at 3:22 a.m.

Any interest how the Turkish government lobbies bribes certain US offiials?

One More Reason to Win – Let Sibel Edmonds Speak

Sibel Edmonds once told me to "put aside 9/11" and instead concentrate on the workings of the Defense Department, amongst other government establishments, because what she had been trying to warn people about was considered by those involved as nothing more than "business as usual." That was the real danger. What she had discovered during her short time with the FBI was so threatening to those doing such "business" that former Attorney General, John Ashcroft, couldn't slap a gag order on her (and Congress) fast enough. But a lot of us already know that.

Truth be known, Dennis Hastert has a hell of a lot more to worry about than the Mark Foley scandal. In fact, he may be seeing the writing on the wall regarding his soon departure from Congress as a welcome relief. However, that result is not only contingent upon a Democratic win in November, but a Democratic majority willing to dig through the tangled mess that is Turkish and American "business relations."

Now, one must understand why Turkey is a big player, albeit a clandestine one, on the world stage; that would be the desperate need for security and acceptance. Turkey shares with Israel common enemies such as Syria, Iran and Iraq and maintains relations in the U.S. in order to secure financial aid and military technology. These relations are enhanced by corporations, lobbyists and conservative think tanks who share a mutual interest in geo-political advantage in the Middle East as well as making some big money.

These relations are connected between former and present Defense Dept. members, The Project for a New American Century members, AIPAC, MIC Inc., Jack Abramoff, The Livingston Group and others. In other words, the more you dig the bigger the headache you may succumb to, yet you'll get an idea of how intertwined all the players are. Would you like to go for a little ride? Let's start with Hastert.

The House Speaker has received contributions from Turkish sources to the tune of at least $500,000 and Edmonds knows that there are tapes from wiretaps that will back up this claim. One of the groups who bragged on those tapes about these illegal contributions was the American Turkish Council (ATC) but Hastert denies any ties to this or other Turkish groups. Yet between 1996 and 2002, Hastert made multiple trips to Turkey and would return home with so many "gifts" that his support staff was surprised that the "plane even got off the ground."

In turn, Hastert has been very helpful to Turkey by using his authority to pull Congressional backing for a resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide. Hastert, of course has denied this.

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Posted on February 14 at 3:15 a.m.

About my great grandparents...or my ancestors.

My father's grandfather had 2 PhDs from Unviersity of Zurich and Unviersity of Munich...he was thrown off a 5 story high building during the genocide. His wife lost her mind and died shortly. My grandmother was left an orphan after the age of 5 I think.

My mother's side lived in the Armenian historic city of Van. My mom's great grandfather was shot in his own house by Turkish army/soldiers when they occupied/surrendered the city during the deportations. Anyways, he was shot in his own house by Turks in front of his 5 children and his wife! Then, his wife took a long journey by foot with her 5 kids towards the Russian side of Armenia and God only knows how long that took and what she had to go through at a young age with 5 kids.

I defenetly see a well respected person (with double PhDs (especially for that time) from one of the best Unviersities of Europe, and a well known engineer would have nothing else to do but murder Turks....as you claim.

My mom told me how their far relative (don't remember exactly who...someone on the mother's side) had her stomach slashed open while she was pregnant!
Another woman had her breasts cut of by the Turkish soldiers during when the Turkish army surrounded the city of Van. Oh and my mom's grandmother witnessed how 2 Armenian young girls threw themselves off a bridge into the river after a gang of 5-6 Turks (soldiers) raped them. It's a long story how she survived through everything, so I will end here. This is to give you an idea of what happened to my ancestors on both side.

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Posted on February 12 at 5:10 p.m.

Turks gaining more and more respect in Europe day after day.

1) The first clip is directed agains the Kurds.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gkwxGL50IMs&a...

2) The Turkish vandalism and destruction of an Armenian cafe after the HR 106 was passed in US back in October.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9P7GpIQzF0&a...

3) Turkish harassments of French-Armenians...in french.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jmoptRbYr-o&a...

I'm all for immigration, but not when it comes to what you see in these clips. Again, the Armenian cafe was destroyed, but much more harm was done to the Turkish communities in Belgium-France. They simply don't understand that these types of actions agains Armenian communities around the world, only helps us to shed light on Armenian genocide through the media, at the same time it makes them look bad all over Europe.

Another reason whyTurks have no place in the EU. Not counting the fact that Turks have no ethnic connections to Europe as well. 800-900 years after the migration from Central Asia doesn't transform them into being European in any way.

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Posted on February 11 at 4:03 a.m.

"Is it fitting and proper that you -as Christians- come here to the West making these charges, listening only to what you have heard from your ancestors and your leaders without due regard for the truth and without regard for the biblical teachings on love for your fellow man and forgiveness?"

Come to the West? As if Armenia is in far East? Are you familiar with geography by any chance? I don't listen to my ancestors...again the AG is well documented fact, so I'm not going to kep repeating myself over and over again. Since Armenians, as the first Christian nation who accepted Christianity as a national religion in 301AD, must forgive the Turks for what they did to us, when all we're getting from them is a slap in the face in regards to the constant denial of their murders?
I have no problem with forgiving anyone, only if they admit of their wrong doings and apologize. In case of Turkey, with its constant denial campaing, I think forgiveness is not on the Armenian side.

The charges have been made against Turkey long time ago... not by Armenia and not since we "came here" as you put it. As if your ancestors didn't "come here". You said "with due regard for the truth?" And what is that truth you're talking about? That there was no Armenian Genocide? No thanks...let's keep that "truth"in Turkey where it belongs. Again, we can forgive, but not when we see the Turkish stance on the issue. I'm not a religious girl, but I sure know what forgivness is...I also know what Turkish deceit is.
But thanks for the life lesson!
I'll keep that in mind for the future. I heard that the world is a harsh place to live in after college...so will try to use your Christian teachings later on.

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Posted on February 11 at 1:58 a.m.

Please note that it's them who had oil, not us, but it was us who fought like never before to get some part of our homeland back. It was us without the OIL, but we managed to win the war. Azeris claim that Armenians won because they were helped by the Russians, but weren't the same Azeris helped by TURKEY? LOL
I guess its ok for them to get help by their brothers on the other side, but not for the Armenians??? Says who?
Armenians and Azeris both got help, on top of that, Azerbaijan was an oil rich country, but it managed to still loose! They attacked Armenia first, and they claim that we're the aggressors just because we won the war? This type of 5 year old logic simply amazes me!

Well, I can just imagine if there's another war between the two countries and if Armenia pushes further into the so-called Azerbaijan, I wonder what type of names the Armenians will be called by the Azeris even if it’s them attacking Armenia again?

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Posted on February 11 at 1:57 a.m.

To suheyla:

First of all, I have no idea why you're bringing up the current Republic of Armenia, since the discussion is going on about a completely different issue. BUT… since you mentioned the exodus... I guess you haven't heard that after the fall of the Soviet Union all the newly independent states had the same/similar economic situation?
You mentioned Armenia as if all the states broke off from the SU and had a great economic success right away and Armenia was the only one lagging behind? LOL
You just mentioned Armenia's situation with the population right? So how about mentioning Azerbaijan? Didn't millions escape to Russia? Didn't millions escape throughout the former SU? So what is your point about Armenia to that regards when the same happened to every single country of the SU? Try harder please!

Also, 40,000 Armenians did not immigrate to Turkey. Most Armenians moved to Russia. Also, the Armenians you're talking about didn't "move" to Turkey, they simply had their businesses in Armenia and many would go to Turkey and bring stuff to sell in Armenia, Georgia and Russia. If you’re trying to show Armenia as economically weak state, please think of the numerous times when Turkey was bailed out from a total economic/financial collapse? Before you try to put down Armenia/Armenians, please see if the same doesn’t apply to the Turks because you seriously contradict yourself. Whatever you said about Armenia..the same scenario applies to either Turkey or Azerbaijan.
I guess you forget the situation of Azerbaijan? Forgot about the electricity shortages, water shortages, and the hardships the Turks went through in Azerbaijan during early 90's? HAVING OIL ON TOP OF THAT??? At least we had no such resource and we were in the same situation as Azerbaijan. Now THAT should makes you wonder!!!
Even today, an oil rich country as Azerbaijan has a high poverty rate. The oil $$$ only benefit the few to this day. Then you hear Azeris bragging about their oil resource, as if the whole Caspian Basin is only theirs! They should about their resource when it benefits EVERY single person in Azerbaijan.

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Posted on February 11 at 1:20 a.m.

Forgot to also say that as one of you mentioned above about how some Armenians killed the Turks during 1915...are you saying that Armenians were so stupid as to let themselves be killed? When the city of Van was already surrounded by the Turkish army for the so-called deportation and the state planned genocidal campaign against them, some villages here and there took some arms for defense. Of course, what they had was nothing compared to the way the Turks were armed, but saying that Armenians killed Turks as well; therefore that's not genocide is simply laughable. It’s the fact that the genocide was a well orchestrated plan by the Ottoman government...unless you claim that in order for the event to constitute genocide, Armenians should have NOT taken any defensive measures in a village here and there in order to see if they can defend themselves? I guess the Turks expected the Armenians to sit there and wait to get shot...I don't think that's something any of us will do when we have an army however big or small, outside of our villages/cities waiting to take us away. Any logical person would defend him/herself. That Turkish excuse has also been used before, but has no relevance at all. I highly doubt that we're so stupid as to let ourselves be killed, knowing that maybe, just maybe if we take arms some of us might stay alive.

Also, the claim that Armenians killed more Turks than the Turks killed Armenians is simply absurd. Armenians were mistreated in the Ottoman Empire, just like any Assyrian or Greek minority. Also, we had no right to bear arms and all the minorities (except the Jews) were badly mistreated in the Empire. I highly doubt that few million unarmed (few men in each village secretly keeping a rifle for whatever reason does not constitute that Armenians were armed!) Armenians were able to fight millions of Turks, especially knowing that even though the Ottoman Empire was crumbling already, it was well armed and had one of the strongest armies in the region?
So how would few million mistreated Armenians go against 10 times as many Turks living under the Turkish rule??? Knowing that they will be crushed in the matter of minutes! Such a scenario is possible, as long as the Armenians wanted to commit suicide and put an end to their 3,000 year old existence.
Like I said before, it has been proven that it was genocide and it has been recognized long time ago, otherwise it would not be thought in the academic institutions. I think I already mentioned that the issue is not if the massacres of the Armenians happened, it’s the use of word genocide (the whole issue in US), which will cause number of problems for the Turkish government.

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