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Posted on July 28 at 4:14 p.m.

Wait... what? He said Measure P will shut down the oil industry? Why do these idiots keep spewing lies about Measure P? It would only ban 3 specific techniques! Plus, it would exempt all previously approved projects! People need to start actually researching issues before opening their mouths.

On Meeting Congressional Candidate Chris Mitchum

Posted on July 26 at 12:19 p.m.

Depends on how the county decides to deal with exemptions. Also, the mineral owners have won only one case out of several.

On How Will County Handle Exemptions to Fracking and Acidizing Ban?

Posted on July 25 at 12:05 p.m.

Oh and for a list of the hundreds of local bans around the country, go here:

None of these have been defeated in court, FYI.

On How Will County Handle Exemptions to Fracking and Acidizing Ban?

Posted on July 25 at 11:46 a.m.

Hundreds of fracking bans have been legally upheld across the country. The most recent was the New York State court upholding all bans across the state:

Our county has nothing to worry about. Folks with mineral rights will keep getting checks, the ban would be legally upheld, people would keep their jobs, the county wouldn't lose any tax revenues. Has anyone actually read the initiative?

On How Will County Handle Exemptions to Fracking and Acidizing Ban?

Posted on July 23 at 8:34 a.m.


1. Terrorists? That's a new low.

2. Measure P wouldn't cost a dime or kill a single job. Read the actual initiative at

3. Safe? This month CA regulators did an emergency shut down of oil injection wells due to fears that groundwater was being contaminated:

4. While some companies are using recycled water, this water is normally used to irrigate pastureland. After that, it recharges the aquifer. Once these companies use this water it becomes permanent hazardous waste that they inject into a well, where 1 in 6 casings fail and eventually leak into the aquifers. Moreover, our county doesn't have enough recycled water to supply all the oil companies looking to use steam injection and fracking in the next few years. There are over 8000 new wells waiting to be drilled using these extreme extraction methods. They're already using some of our fresh water - soon they'll have to use much, much more of it.

5. Salt-water below the earth for oil companies is a complete lie. They use fresh water here and in other places. Talking about salt water, offshore companies have been dumping 9 billion gallons of frack wastewater into the ocean every year for a long time now (just found this out last year). There's nothing safe about this industry's operations, as long as they can make some money at people's expense.

6. Measure P would not cost anybody anything. It exempts all current projects, therefore the county and the schools and the workers remain getting the exact same amount of money after it's passed as before it was passed.

The oil industry is really working hard to deceive people right now. It's a shame. But the fact is, if they were honest about these techniques nobody would stand for it.

On Economic Terrorists?

Posted on July 21 at 8:51 a.m.

It's a good thing anonymous internet commenters don't make energy policy.

On Carbajal in Climate Change Talks

Posted on July 21 at 7:28 a.m.

Good on Rebecca. The oil industry has thus far proven to be as deceitful as ever with this campaign.

On Measure P Preserves and Protects

Posted on July 17 at 9:06 a.m.

Local oil production makes up a tiny fraction of our local economy, and none of the revenue the county makes from oil production would be impacted by Measure P.

The vast majority of jobs and revenue stream in the county come from tourism, ag and tech. With one serious casing failure from a steam injection well, the economy would be harmed beyond repair.

Why don't we just continue with conventional oil production and prevent these risky techniques? Really not too much to ask.

If you want to protect jobs and our severely limited water supplies, vote YES on Measure P.

On The Grassroots Speak

Posted on July 15 at 2:40 p.m.

More wind water and solar energy. Less coal oil and gas.

On State Seeks Public Input on Oil and Gas Well Stimulation

Posted on July 13 at 4:01 p.m.

Jarvis, the point of the PetroOne article was that they state as a matter of fact that cyclic steaming has a high casing failure rate. Other petroleum engineering literature states the same. As for Cold Lake, again, it's an instance wherein cyclic steam injection caused an unstoppable leak. You asked for evidence that CSI contaminates water. I gave you one peer reviewed piece of petro engineering literature that states that CSI has a high casing failure rate, and one news article referencing one of the most horrendous example of CSI water contamination. You can look up the Kern County CSI spill if you want another example. There are others.

CSI has even caused seeps in Santa Barbara County:

-- "Steam injection in the nearby Pacific Coast Energy Company lease (formerly Breitburn lease), located immediately north of the SME lease, has resulted in oil seeping to the ground surface due to casing leaks, creating surface expressions of oil from the Diatomite formation. (These surface expressions are associated with well mechanical failures.)" (page 212)

-- "Both surface expressions related to mechanical failures (i.e. casing failures, etc.) and seeps are, or could be, related to oil extraction activities at the project site." (page 212)

-- "the frequency of seeps occurring at the site has increased substantially since PCEC has started their steam injection program" (page 212)

-- "….in the event that such seeps/surface expressions of oil occur, the oil could migrate to nearby creeks and drainages, creating potentially significant water quality impacts." (page 213)

Like I said, CSI has just the same risks as fracking. We should stick to conventional drilling methods. All this extreme stuff is a waste of our time.

On Extremists Block Path to Energy Independence

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