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Posted on March 5 at 10:11 p.m.
I will address some of your points'
"(We) disagree about a) the prevalence of bilingual services; b) whether there's any proven correlation between info being available in Spanish and immigrants not learning English, as you suggest; and c) that people not learning English is the fault of progressives and advocates."
The services are very prevalent. B: It is only natural that having these would impede English learning because human nature is such that if you do not have to learn a second language, you usually won't. I present as evidence the fact that the vast majority of Americans do not speak a second language, and if they do, it is usually because they were exposed to one as a child. C: It IS the fault of progressives, and ALSO the fault of the big business interests on the Right who know that immigrants fluent in English are a threat to their ability to keep them trapped in their low wage cycle. If I come across as picking on progressives, it's because they should know that literacy in the language of the land is power, or what comes to mind is "saber es poder".
"One might want to examine the barriers to the working poor learning English (time, money, family obligations) rather than focusing on how immigrants are supposedly being aided in not learning English."
Italian, Poles, Czechs, Russians and others coming to Ellis Island?...how were THEY able to assimilate? Again, my point about human nature covers this.
"And yes, parents' English fluency can impact their kids. But is this the primary problem for education and school readiness? Of course not. But once again it blames parents"
No, I'm not blaming the parents, and ironically, if you've read my previous posts on the gang problem where people blame the parents, you will find me in opposition to these people. Again, it's the fact that they don't have to learn English/the ability to move upward. The secondary impact on the kids is the low self-esteem they develop when they see other nationalities assimilating and getting ahead, while they see their parents being told "why bother?" (To learn English)
.".. (and the left of course--always a bonus!) without giving enough weight to the truly primary problems--which, as you say, affect the working class all across racial/cultural lines. And since the working poor regardless of race/culture experience the same challenges with academic acheivement regardless of what language the parents speak, it's clear there are much greater issues here than that. so I don't know why one would want latch onto parent language as a big issue... It's larger systems that need to change. And if change won't happen, we can at least work to mitigate the effects of those systems. But only if we accurately identify where problems really come from."
SBPorVida (anonymous profile)March 5, 2014 at 8:35 p.m
On Study Shows Most Kids Not Ready for Kindergarten
Posted on March 5 at 5:54 p.m.
Not to worry Yendo, we have Cathy Murillo and Susan Rose to remind us that Y-Chromosone=lower form of evolution.
Of course what's really missing here is the wondeful world of the alcohol culture and how these people couldn't care less about how their selfish refusal to take a cab home/have a designated driver affects others.
Maybe You and I should enroll in a re-education course at UC Beserkely for sensitivity training.
On Woman Sentenced to Probation for DUI Crash That Broke 3-Year-Old Son's Neck
Posted on March 4 at 9:02 p.m.
You're fooling yourself Gluteous.
On Homeless Man Steals Double Dolphin
Posted on March 3 at 9:56 p.m.
"Back to the topic, if they are recruiting at the high school, parents, educators and the school need to also educate the impressionable minds about other options (other than 4-year colleges and military) Give the kids the whole picture. "
skaterspoint (anonymous profile)March 3, 2014 at 5:43 p.m.
Well said, I agree 100%. Keep dialogue open, let's not supress the Free Speech of the recruiters.
On Military Recruiting On Our Local High School Campuses
Posted on March 3 at 9:53 p.m.
I feel much better now: The Good Old Days of the Cold War have returned.
On Boycott Kansas and Arizona?
Posted on March 3 at 5:07 p.m.
Migration patterns caused by worldwide population increases.
On Where Did All This Growth Come From? – Part 2
Posted on March 3 at 3:03 p.m.
Aren't elder abuse and human trafficking already against the law?
On Better Protections for Vulnerable Victims
Posted on March 3 at 2:51 p.m.
I would add to Ken comment by saying don't confuse liberals with progressives.
Posted on March 3 at 2:49 p.m.
...and these hierarchical forms of government that cause the problems in their home countries are sold to them as being helpful to them even when it's the underlying cause of "la cadena perpetua"/"The endless cycle" (of poverty and crime. All the while, the people with the sales pitch make lots of $$$.
On Activists Call for District Elections
Posted on March 2 at 10:43 p.m.
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer vetoed the law, so there should be no issue here. If one says "well yeah but there are a lot of people who supported it there, you can apply that logic to anywhere in the world because no matter where you go, there will always be people who don't think as we do.
Speaking of The Olympics, isn't it interesting that the U.S. boycotted the 1980 Olympics in Russia because of the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan when years later the U.S. also invaded Afghanistan?
This new SBMA favorite returns to perform works by American ... Read More
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