Posted on May 21 at 8:46 a.m.

I think we agree that we dont want to see any major expansion of the casino.... where we differ is that you have issues with the Chumash and think they pulled one over on us and that its all racially based where as I have pointed out that it is our governments, not the Chumash's, that have created Indian Gaming.

All they did was play by the rules of the game,,,

You and Holly and Bimbo have a great day... now..

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Posted on May 20 at 4:15 p.m.

bimbo... hmmm .. no, I wont go there,,,,

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Posted on May 20 at 4:07 p.m.

LOL... you bring up all this stuff, I do adress it, then you say I am trying to take you off the topic.. ok... I guess you need to save face anyway you can I guess...

Your the one who expounded on my Hitler' Nazi comment... lol

My comments are "ranting and raving" but yours are very sensible and calm? lol Twist it up any way you want... I stand by my comments.

I guess my main point I want to get across about the Casino and candidates like Pappas and groups like POLO and people who think like them is the following....

They attack a player in a game ,the Chuamsh, who won the grand prize.

A game where all they did was play under rules made up by the owners of the establishment, the Federal and State governments.

Of course there are issues when you have a casino in a community and I dont want to see a huge expansion either, and think a fair, independent study to understand the impact, both positive and negative, would be a great thing to undertake,,,but to attack the tribe as these people and groups have done is unforgivable and ignorant and points to bigotry and racism.

You look at other communities where tribes have built the traditional high rise casinos and then look at what the Chumash have built ... and it is a gift. They could have built a 14 story high rise and nobody could have stopped them. But they didnt.

You cannot see the casino until you are about 1/4 mile from it.

Two blocks away in downtown Santa Ynez you cannot see the casino.. It really is a gem for what it is and for its location.

At this point in time I view the Chumash and the Casino an asset to our valley.

I am not a gambler... BTW.

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Posted on May 20 at 2:34 p.m.

Uh,,, you are putting words in my mouth... did I ever say that I thought that everyone could control thier urges?

No.

Its not a perfect world, and neither are the humans in it.

You cant save em all from themselves and if you want to regulate society to try and do it, then you would make a great communist,

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Posted on May 20 at 11:09 a.m.

Gambling has been around since the beginning of time and will I am sure once we have all left this earth gambling will still be around. It is part of the human nature to gamble.

85% of the American population think gambling is ok. They see it as a form of entertainment. You dont want to gamble? Fine.

Are their problem gamblers? Sure. Just as their are problem drinkers. Problem drinkers outnumber problem gamblers by a huge margin and the devastation on their lives is triple fold compared to problem gamblers.

Should we outlaw alcohol to save these people???

Its the classic holier than thou syndrome. I know whats moral for you and I will seek to enforce my beliefs on you.

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Posted on May 20 at 9:16 a.m.

For Mr Clausen and Holly...

The biggest mistake you people make is thinking that the Chumash get to have a casino just because they are Indians. You see it as a special right given to a particular race of people.

If you can get the following concept straight in your mind, it will lead you to a greater understanding of why and how the Chumash have a casino.

The unique political status of American Indian tribes is not racially based.

American Indians are separate from "minority" groups or "people of color" because of their political status as nations.

American Indians are separate nations, not minorities.

The United States negotiated treaties with American Indian nations through the nineteenth century and continues to negotiate various agreements today.

These treaties and political agreements are not based on the racial status of American Indians but solely on political status, creating the basis for the nation-to-nation relationship.

Leading legal scholar Felix S. Cohen has wrote, "In dealing with Indians, the federal government is dealing with members or descendants of political entities, that is, Indian tribes, not with persons of a particular race."

One of the fundamental rights of American Indian nations is to establish and regulate tribal citizenship or enrollment. Citizenship is a critical issue for all nations because citizens form the foundation of the nation.

American Indian nations establish citizenship requirements and practices within their constitutions.

Nearly one-third of tribes populating the lower 48 states have rejected blood quantum and instead use a variety of requirements including lineal descent or residency

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Posted on May 20 at 8:59 a.m.

The Holocaust death toll was about 6 million.

Over four centuries, from the 1500 to 1900, the North American Indian population went from an estimated 12 million down to 237,000.

Historians have called this a "vast genocide . . . , the most sustained on record" and that Native Americans had undergone the "worst human holocaust the world had ever witnessed, roaring across two continents non-stop for four centuries and consuming the lives of countless tens of millions of people."

Historians have also stated that "there can be no more monumental example of sustained genocide—certainly none involving a 'race' of people as broad and complex as this—anywhere in the annals of human history."

So, if you see Mr. Wiesel, feel free to ask him about the analogy.

Your lack of perspective, knowledge of Native American history and the laws that have led up to the creation of Indian gaming seems to be the common thread for the people in your camp.

All you guys see is a Tribe in our valley, making a ton of money by operating a casino, and believing that somehow these Indians, who you believe aren’t really Indians at all, were the ones who created the rules by which this has occurred. You hold them responsible for something your government allowed to happen.

For 108 years the Chumash have been playing at the US Government poker table. The rules of the game were created by the Government. They lived in poverty. Then 20 years ago, playing by the rules they did not create, they finally got a winning hand. They won big time.

Do you think they should have looked at that hand and folded? Do you think they should have said to themselves, “ No. We shouldn’t take this opportunity to pull ourselves out of poverty and create a better life for our children.” What would you have done?

If you have a beef with the Casino, take it to Washington and Sacramento..that is where the people are, along with the voters of this state, who have allowed the casino to be built in our valley and where expansion decisions will be made.

You are thoughts are convoluted and you mix two trains of thought when you talk about being a Nazi and having concerns over casino expansion. It shows how desperate you are to defend your previous statements.

Anyway, I don’t put too much stock in person like David Crosby who calls the tribe a bunch of thugs who bring drugs into the valley, then gets busted for drugs and illegal possession of weapons. What a hypocrite.

You also state how non-racist a person he is.

He said, ”And frankly, if you want to see them blanch and then get really mad, start talking about DNA testing for who's really an Indian and who isn't. If the guy who's running the tribe here has any Indian blood in him at all, it's a miracle."

That’s pure bigotry Mr. Clausen.

BTW… I am not an Indian as stated above, and do not want to see a humongous casino expansion.

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Posted on May 19 at 10:34 a.m.

The ignorance of your statement is what’s laughable as you deny racial discrimination but in the very same sentence call for DNA testing to determine how much Chumash blood they have or, using the correct term, “blood quantum”.

Throughout Native history blood was never a factor in determining who was or was not included in a tribe. Many Native American tribes adopted non-tribal members and over time they became fully functioning members of the group. These included members of neighboring tribes, white settlers, or members of enemy tribes.

These new members would often be bestowed with some of the same prestige and duties of original tribal members. The fact that the adoptee was sometimes of a different ethnic origin was of little importance to the tribes. It wasn’t about blood. It was about who you were and living the culture, speaking the language and passing down the history to next generations. This is what made a member of a tribe.

Blood quantum involving Indians began with guess who… the good old Federal Government. It was the Dawes Act of 1887, which was designed to take away the original land owned by the Indians. They decided if you had ¼ blood you would get 160 acres. 1/8 blood .. 80 acres.

Guess how they decided that.

The white Washington agents sent out to make these rolls went by ….looks. They didn’t have the medical tools to determine blood. They went by looks.

Pure and simple… racial profiling.

There is no other group in America who is ever asked who they are by how much blood or have to carry a card around with them to show how much blood they have.

Now for your DNA test request.

First, Native American DNA tests examine only a small proportion of the test taker’s DNA. Most tests fall into one of two categories: mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) tests and Ychromosome tests. MtDNA tests examine DNA that is inherited only from one’s mother (and her mother, and her mother before her...). Y-chromosome tests examine DNA that is passed down from grandfather to father to son (and so on).

These tests examine less than 1% of the test taker’s DNA, and shed light on only one maternal or paternal ancestor. So, even if a person’s grandparents were Native American except for thier mother’s mother, a mtDNA test would still fail to detect Native American ancestry.

Native American DNA tests do not provide foolproof answers to questions of Native American ancestry.

It boils down to this… while a DNA test would indicate the presence some degree of native american genetics, there is no way for a DNA test to prove that a person decended from a particular Indian tribe let alone how much blood or blood quantum of a particular tribe one may have.

So before, you make anymore statements… do your homework..

Your comments remind me of another Government that used blood quantum as a scientific, government-approved method of determining blood purity and race purity.

Hitlers Nazi Germany….

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Posted on May 16 at 8:35 a.m.

"We're from the government and we're here to help you".

Hmmmm... Thats what they said to the Indians and looked what happened to them......

Pappas has said that he is independent and that he is " beholding to no political force or political machine, I will be accountable only to the people."

Uh... Pappas is the founder of POLO which has dogged the Chumash on just about every level of thier exisitence and his campaign is basically funded by that group .. he received $10,000 from Terri Harmon and $5,000 from Jon Bowen of Santa Ynez, and $5,000 from Bowen's company, Noosa Corp. Both of these people have been a few of the most vocal critics of the Chumash.

Pappas has said that “My argument is not with the Indians and their community, but with the BIA."

Yet this group, which he founded criticized the tribes charitable gifts, attacked the commemorative signs along Hwy 154, and hired an “expert” to write an op-ed that questions the Chumash’s legitimacy as a Federally recognized tribe as well as the reservation itself.

Those actions have nothing to do with the BIA and everything to do with the Chumash people.

Pappas is a candidate with a very specific personal agenda and represents a very small radical group in the Santa Ynez Valley.

You want someone with the experience and who is truly independent and has absolutley no baggage? Victoria Pointer.

She will truly represent EVERYONE in our district and has the experience to do it with.

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