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Dario Pini?

A scourge to neighbors and tenants, a bringer of blight. 72% 104 votes
He's one of the few S.B. landlords who provides housing for the working poor, and he deserves credit for that. 20% 29 votes
He apparently was trying to make his Chino Street project as pleasant as possible for prospective tenants - and violate zoning density at the same time. 7% 11 votes
144 total votes

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Why is this a public poll? How does anyone know if any of the responders actually know anything about this guy other than what they read in the media?

And who actually believes the media any more without a salt shaker on hand? Suggest you listen to the great Don Henley song "Dirty Laundry".

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's ironic that the same people that complain about the cost of housing complain about those that actually provide affordable housing.

I really think some people have absolutely no clue. They think they can have a nice place to live in Santa Barbara and someone is either going to give it to them or rent it or sell it at a loss so they can live here. "It's all the fault of the 1%." Their own ignorance of economics is often the cause of their anger.

Botany (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Really.

Pini's record on how he 'helps' and 'provides' low income housing is readily available:

Google "dario pini lawsuits" and you get a number of items, including:

- Santa Maria landlord forced to pay $1 million for unsafe living conditions
http://www.ksby.com/news/santa-maria-...

- Two police officers received an award for successfully coordinating a multi-agency action against Pini:

"Beginning in August 1994, Officer Kim Fryslie and Officer
Michael Aspland developed a P.O.P. project involving Mr. Dario Pini, a slum lord who owns 34 properties in the City of Santa Barbara. Many city agencies have known about Mr. Dario Pini's property management tactics for many years, however; none took on the task of addressing the problems as a whole. The problems became chronic since no one was holding Mr. Pini accountable for the squalor he created."
http://www.popcenter.org/library/awar... (this is a PDF file)

- Surfside Motel owner [Pini] to pay $75,000

"In 1998, he pleaded no contest to 11 counts of building without proper permits and was fined $476. In 2001, he was convicted of three similar charges and fined $3,200.

"In December 2003, Port Hueneme officials cited Pini for numerous wastewater, fire district, building and safety, and code compliance violations at the motel."

"A June 2004 inspection found violations in nearly every motel room, including inoperable smoke detectors, leaking sinks, running toilets, rotted ceilings and cockroach infestation." "
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2007/sep/0...

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Here's some quick links on this website I got by using the Search function with Pini's name in them:

- Dario Pini's Problems:
http://www.independent.com/news/2007/...
- Student Objects to Housing Provided by EF School
http://www.independent.com/news/2008/...

"At one point he and his company, Dario Pini Investments, were targeted in a massive police investigation that ended in nearly 800 building code violations and a jail sentence. Pini famously chose to spend 30 days behind bars instead of going on house arrest in one of his rentals."
http://www.independent.com/news/2011/...

Chester_Arthur_Burnett (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I DO have a clue. I owned a property directly across from Mr. Pini for years. There were more people living in his "house" than you would possibly imagine possible. Cars, noise, and trash were a constant problem. This house was one which was listed as a chronic problem and I remember when some judge paid a physical visit. The night before, trash was moved out of that property until after midnight and everything "straightened up" for the next day's viewing. Then, with the passing of time and little pressure, the place was back to its original appearance. My experience was not lived through the media!

sharpen123 (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for proving my point guys. So if it weren't for Dario Pini, where would all those people be living? Ventura? Oxnard? Lompoc?

That's the only way SB is affordable to some.

Botany (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Botany:

A fabulously limp apologia to actual court rulings and fines -- one in excess of a $Million -- for squalor, safety and code violations, and other lawless behavior.

You attempt put a fine face on a proven slumlord, and for some reason find no problem with his actions.

Your core justification -- that of 'affordability' -- is a stance, I am happy to say, outside the mainstream of our society and unsupported by our laws.

Chester_Arthur_Burnett (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Locke" fancies himself "center-left" but comments like this show his actual politics: landlords first! Hey John, why shouldn't it be a public poll? Indie doesn't claim it's scientific, just folks expressing their opinions, like you often do. Attacking the media like you do in this comment reminds me of another comment of yours, apply this to yourself: "so easy for some people to pick a single target. Less thinking required". Just blame it on the media, that's why over 60% think he's a slumlord. I've lived near some of his properties and they were horribly overcrowded and run down.
Botany's a landlord, too, so guess he's got sympathy for Pini.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not saying I approve of Pini. He just caters to a segment of society that would not be able to live here because of him. If you want to force him to clean his units up and abide by all city codes, I have no problem with it. Just don't force him to do it out of one side of your mouth and complain because Santa Barbara has no affordable housing out of the other. One other question you should ask is "Where do half of Pini's tenants go when he conforms all his units to code?", because if he does, there will be no place for them.

And actually Dan. I have purchased units that are substandard. These units had existing tenants in them that sublet rooms, , kept unauthorized pets, dealt drugs and kept the places a complete mess. So what did I do? When the tenants left, I put money into the place and cleaned it up. Of course, then I charge more and get better tenants. Where do the previous tenants go? Maybe to Dario Pini. I don't know. I keep my places in good shape and abide by city codes. I'm no Dario Pini, but then again, I would never accept the tenants that he does.

Botany (anonymous profile)
March 21, 2013 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, DrDan, you entirely miss my point - this is getting rather tiresome. I don't believe "landlords first", but I do believe in free markets - which we do not have in SB rentals due to too few landlords and management firms controlling the supply of rental housing, a city government that restricts new supply. and high demand due to the number of people that want to live in our beautiful environment. I've already suggested a potential solution - eliminate the property management firms since they are the primary anticompetitive force - however, there may be a Constitutional problem with that approach, so an increase in supply by loosening the restrictions on new construction would be the next logical move, maybe even with subsidies for truly low income folks, but with the proper regulation and oversight to ensure that those with, shall we say, a sense of entitlement and lack of ethics, do not game the system,

I always prefer facts to name-calling. And clearly the Indy sees the world through a far left lens while the News-Press is at the other end of the spectrum, so I don't blindly accept what either of them report. And now several posters have contributed links and personal experience with Pini to this discussion.. My thanks to them.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, "John Locke" again, your repeated same comments are also "getting rather tiresome" -- but please carefully note that now over 71% think he's a slumlord. It's wonderfully generous of you to accept that,with loosened laws for new construction, hey, maybe "even with subsidies for truly low income folks." Locke, you've written plenty of name-calling posts so your comment is amusing.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This thread courtesy of Edward Albee.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DrDan, quote me one name-calling post of mine.

If the 71% are uninformed, the stat is not interesting.

Good one, K_V.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mar 3, not-civil Locke wrote to EatTheRich: "You need meds, dude, serious meds. I recommend large amounts of Prozac. Very large amounts. Nitey night. Try not to let your demons bite."
Try to be coherent, John.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KV - Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Even Albee would have trouble with intelligent dialogue with our free-market fundamentalist pretend "center-leftist"!

DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

and JL wrote insultingly about Isla Vista students and their voting: "their brains are not fully formed, they are not fully formed. They own nothing, they have no sense of private property, they are propagandized by an extremely left wing faculty who live off the taxpayer." And when your friend KV chided your for being schizophrenic, you agreed...hmmm... never sure which JL is writing, tough to keep that center-left and extreme-right elitist guy blended, eh?

DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, DrDan, my schizophrenic twin and I are so hurt. My comments on brains not being fully formed until age 25 is based on recent scientific research published in, among other places, The Economist and New York Times. Might wanna do some reading to supplement your opinions with facts. As to the rest of that comment, I employ college students - that's where my views on their views on private property rights and the political leanings of their faculty come from. Last I saw there was exactly one Republican on the UCSB faculty (if they haven't run him off) - nice balanced view of the world there, eh?, though I infer from your postings that you're not too interested in balance. So again, got an example of name-calling for me?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

too many examples to waste my time on, JL...NOTE: you refuse to acknowledge your own name-calling after challenging me to find some: IT WAS EASY, dude.
The one Republican on the UCSB faculty (Poli Sci) is a former student of mine... with your schizoid tendencies obviously "balance" is an issue for you.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh my god, this is rich:

"Burglary Arrest

Dario Louis Pini, age 63, a well-known Santa Barbara landlord, was arrested for burglary.

On March 17, 2013 at 4:25 p.m., Santa Barbara Police Department Officers Mike Little and Bruno Peterson responded to a call of a burglary investigation at a construction site at 316 W. Carrillo Street. Upon arrival they contacted the victim who is the owner of the house there....(more)"

https://local.nixle.com/alert/4976726...

Obviously part of his selfless plans in helping lower income folks with their housing needs.

Chester_Arthur_Burnett (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

JohnLocke just confuses me.

And Pini has been a problem landlord for decades, for all of the reasons listed above.

LegendaryYeti (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gotta shake my head on that one. The guy is probably has property worth 9 figures. If true, you have to wonder why he's doing stuff like that.

Botany (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's hard for me to take JohnLocke's insults seriously because it's hard for me to take JohnLocke seriously - even more noted because, apparently, even *he* doesn't read what he writes...

@JohnLocke: "Last I saw there was exactly one Republican on the UCSB faculty..."

Which speaks more to the capacity of contemporary Republican intellect than it does to some academic liberal conspiracy. You want more Republicans at UCSB? Get smarter Republicans (careful - most 'smarter Republicans' stop being Republican).

@LegendaryYeti: "JohnLocke just confuses me."

You're not the one who is confused.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most "Smart Republicans" don't have careers in academia. They have aspirations well beyond that.

Botany (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I challenge JohnLocke's assertion that "Last I saw there was exactly one Republican on the UCSB faculty..."

What is the source of that statement? I hope it's not David Horowitz. I don't believe the University tracks that sort of personal information, and if a poll has ever been done I'd love to see it.

UCSB has over 1000 faculty members. It is an easy bet that at least 2 of them are Republicans. My guess is very many more than two.

djfranchise (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Botany: "Most "Smart Republicans" don't have careers in academia. They have aspirations well beyond that."

I'm sure all of the tenured faculty at the Department of Computer Science really wish they would have had 'aspirations beyond'.

They must lay awake at night thinking, "If only I could have gone into a noble profession, like the mortgage and/or medical insurance industries, then I could have had a *real* career - instead of wasting my life conducting field-defining research and teaching college students."

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

re: Pini's arrest:

It appears Pini is not only a deceitful and derelict landlord, it seems he has some sick personality defects as well.

djfranchise (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As usual, not one factual statement from the usual suspects.

And DrDan, I only asked for ONE example - "too many to quote" is just another example of
avoidance of fact on your part.

The "one Republican on the UCSB faculty" came from local media several years ago, so the number could now be more or less. "Guessing" how many there are is not interesting. In any case, the leftwing leanings of UCSB, along with Berkeley, U of Wisconsin, U of Minnesota, and others has been adequately demonstrated since I started becoming aware of such things in the 60's.

Eat, do you think the tenured faculty are better off because they have tenured? i.e. a guaranteed government job?

And to assert that there are no smart Republicans, well, that is just fatuous. (oops, DrDan, do you consider that name-calling?)

Y'all have a nice weekend, now.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh BTW (Dr Dan, this is especially for you, who accused me of "landlords first"). None of my comments were a defense of Pini - just questioning the actual knowledge level of the 71% (wow, 33 whole votes) who slammed him in the poll, as opposed to those who based their votes on hearsay. Facts are usually overwhelmed by opinions in these strings.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@JohnLocke: "Eat, do you think the tenured faculty are better off because they have tenured? i.e. a guaranteed government job?"

If you knew anything about the world of academia - anything at all - you would know that tenure at UCSB is everything but a 'guaranteed government job'. Easily one of the more misinformed opinions you have... which makes me almost want to congratulate you, as that is no trivial feat.

Tenure isn't just handed out like some gold watch. Even at lowly liberal arts colleges - there is an EXTREMELY rigid and regulated process in which a candidate for tenure must prove that they are continuing to contribute and publish in their field. And, at UCs and other top-tier universities, even tenured faculty must continue to publish after receiving tenure - which is why professors at institutions like UCSB are expected to put their research priorities in front of their teaching priorities.

Once again, the opinions of JohnLocke may be as far from reality as they appear...

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dario Pini arrested! I'm sure Marty Blum will advocate for him.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pini should be in a state prison. Forget three strikes this jackass has dozens. Hey and a shout out to the "without slum lords where would people live"? crowd, how would you feel if Campells food just started putting dog food in their soups so that the poor folk could eat?

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My,my, Eat, you get more defensive every time you post but never miss the chance to sling slime. Funny how according to you my opinions are all misinformed, you of course being the fount of all knowledge. Why the hate dude? Mother mistreat you?

But let me try to understand you - once tenure has been earned it is not a guarantee of a job forever, barring gross incompetence or moral turpitude (or maybe not even barring them)? Isn't that what tenure means? And tenured faculty put their research priorities in front of their teaching priorities - wonder what the students paying huge tuition think of that...

Did it ever occur to you that I don't give a (pick your expletive) what the likes of you and DrDan think of me? But then you apparently don't think, just spout worn-out rhetoric from your far left perch - so far left that center looks far right to you. And you confuse slinging slime with expressing an actually potentially valuable opinion, or God forbid actual data to support your opinion, on the subject at hand. Typical leftie.

Stick to the issues, dude, and keep your personal garbage to yourself. Might actually have an interesting conversation. But no, that takes the ability to see more than one side of a subject and actually have a civilized discussion - traits which you clearly lack. Think I'm wrong? Let's try an experiment - you pick the topic and I'll argue the Leftist view while you argue the Right. With data.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, H_G, Wellness cat food is quite tasty and nutritious and made of human grade ingredients. Try the Chicken - tastes like pate. Particularly good on crackers. Yes, I know this for a fact - can you guess how?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Botany must still be bitter about bad grades.

J-L: You're actually a cat who's owner named him "John Locke"?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 22, 2013 at 11:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nope. I'm a person owned by a cat who named me "John Locke". Curious about the "human ingredients" claim made by some brands of cat food, so tried a few. The Turkey is good too; the beef, not so much.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 23, 2013 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Scratch John Locke off pot luck list! ;)

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 23, 2013 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TeeHee - shoulda been here for my cat's birthday party. The fish course was wonderful.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
March 23, 2013 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KV - My grades were just so-so in high school and college. I'm not bitter at all. I wouldn't trade my life now for any of those academic types.

Botany (anonymous profile)
March 23, 2013 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everybody has their bliss :)

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DrDan (anonymous profile)
March 25, 2013 at 9:35 a.m.

We have reached the end of this argument, folks. Please comment on the poll topic.

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