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Congressional candidate Chris Mitchum


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Former Actor Looks to Unseat Lois Capps in House of Representatives


Monday, July 28, 2014
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The newest spot for Republicans to wheel and deal this election season used to be a Ralph Lauren store in the Galleria shopping mall on upper State Street. Sitting in his campaign headquarters beneath a portrait of his movie-star father, Robert Mitchum, congressional candidate Chris Mitchum said his new office proves the economy needs help. “Out of business,” said Mitchum of the luxury brand’s previous shop. “There was nobody to rent it. This is what is happening to our country.”

Opening the doors to the public for the first time Friday afternoon, Mitchum, 70, was surrounded by a small group of Republicans — and a self-identified Independent — who ate sushi and drank wine to celebrate the start of campaign season. Mitchum is running against incumbent Lois Capps for California’s 24th Congressional District, and much of the room was draped with red, white, and blue campaign signs. On either side of the entryway to his desk space were two flags — a California and an American — strategically placed just as they are in congressional offices all over Washington.

Mitchum falls into the camp of movie actors who jumped into politics. And perhaps his ability to memorize scripts comes in handy when speaking with reporters. At the start of our 30-minute conversation, he stuck to his talking points, emphasizing the structure of a constitutional republic and the opportunity for success for all. “Square pegs don’t fit into round holes,” he said and called the current government “top heavy” and “almost tyrannical.”

Though he said little about Capps — who has held the House seat for 16 years, a point her opponents increasingly stress — Mitchum did say he could not think of one issue where the two saw eye to eye. He touched on everything from the Israel-Palestine crisis to fracking to bond measures to immigrant children to sexual assaults on college campuses.

Mitchum is unequivocally conservative. Obama has “absolutely” not been doing enough to help the Israelis, Mitchum said, and the United States should give them whatever they ask for. “What we don’t need to do is send tens of millions of dollars of humanitarian aid into Hamas.” And he feigns no political correctness. “You don’t sit there and try to help your enemy against your friend,” he said.

Mitchum also talked about energy and said that for areas rich in oil and gas, drilling means more jobs and paying down debt. “All you have to do is look at North Dakota and Texas. There’s about 2 percent unemployment,” he noted. Though he claims to support Senate Bill 4 — which will put in place safeguards to regulate fracking in California — he frankly opposes Measure P, which would ban fracking and acidizing on unincorporated land in Santa Barbara County. Though it would not close down existing operations immediately, the ban could require industry officials to obtain a permit from the county to repair pipes on existing operations. “It will put companies out of business,” he argued and said 18,000 people in the county depend on oil companies for a living while another $10 million in royalties goes to public schools and fire departments. “Gone,” he repeated.

Speaking of money for schools, Mitchum also described himself as an “anti-tax” guy and said the problem with bond measures — like the $288 million bond SBCC placed on the November ballot — is that college students vote for them but skip town a few years later, leaving property owners like himself with the bills.

And what about immigrant children? “Send them home,” Mitchum said. “Absolutely.” He could not say to what extent the problem exists in the area but added it’s going to be a problem everywhere. “They are flying them into Massachusetts, for God’s sakes.”

Calling Obamacare a disaster, Mitchum said there are specific things that could be done to get the cost down: major court reform on doctor malpractice and opening up the state borders to increase competition. “We have the best health care in the world. The problem was that it was too expensive,” said Mitchum, and he proposed to get people involved in the process, perhaps through a system that utilizes a health-care savings account.

Heading his campaign is Tab Berg, who founded Tab Communications in 2001 and has managed a number of political and public relations campaigns. According to Berg’s website, his clients have included a number of California Republicans including San Luis Obispo Supervisor Debbie Arnold, Representative Brian Bilbray, and Representative Paul Cook. Prior to that, he served as chief of staff for two state legislators.

With congressional politics in the Central Coast as predictable as the weather, Berg and Mitchum have a lot of work ahead of them. And by the end of June, Capps had raised almost 10 times the money — with more than $1.6 million in her campaign piggy bank. It appears Capps can wheel and deal too.

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Wait... what? He said Measure P will shut down the oil industry? Why do these idiots keep spewing lies about Measure P? It would only ban 3 specific techniques! Plus, it would exempt all previously approved projects! People need to start actually researching issues before opening their mouths.

nitrogen (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Measure P: The water used in these practices is not only recycled- it's too salty for human use to begin with. Measure P would make drilling for potable water for human use illegal.

Galeria: That location has been deadly to every business that has ever opened up in it. Its disingenuous to tell locals that a Ralph Lauren shop ) went out of business because of the economy; it went out of business because it was in the Galleria!

Israel/Gaza: Mitchum drops the ball again. What help do the Israelis need? We're already giving them a blind eye!

Immigrant children flying into Massachusetts: On what? magic carpets? They can't afford food in their homelands but they can afford plane tickets? Right.

Pater Mitchum: Touching he has his father's portrait up but it smacks of trying to ride his coat tails. Not recommended.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He seems like a great replacement for Capps.

loneranger (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mitchum already sounds like a breath of fresh air. He actually has opinions and states them frankly and boldly. It will be interesting to learn more about who this man actually is, and not who the Democrat machine tried to tell us he is. He is certainly not the person portrayed in the Lois Capps primary ads. Capps and her cross-over voters may regret choosing him a her opponent . The choice is between fresh ideas and tired equivocations. Best wishes, Chris Mitchum.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He laments that the US is not doing enough to help Israel. And this is a problem how?

ahem (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have met Chris a few times, and he's truly a "nice guy" -- and a political dinosaur. We're not doing enough to help Israel?! How about $3.4 billion to them just this past year?? Whatever you think about Gaza, etc, we help Israel totally and just recently 100 out of the 100 Senators voted to support Israel -- get out of Montecito once in awhile, Chris. Chris thinks he's Ronald Reagan but as Lloyd Bentsen said to Dan Quayle (altered), "I knew RR, and you're no RR, you're not even Robert Mitchum!"
Measure P - Yes on P. Mitchum is a pleasant political fool, and a breath of stale air.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Patton-all he needs is 2 chrome .45's!
Oh,wait,that was George C. Scott not Robert Mitchum.

garfish (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hoo boy, playing to the base with standard lies. I would think that everyone would like healthcare costs to stabilize, and as far as Medicare is concerned, Obamacare/ACA seems to be doing just that.

"Medicare’s financial stability has been strengthened by the Affordable Care Act and other forces that have been subduing health-care spending, according to a new official forecast that says the fund covering the program’s hospital costs will remain solvent until 2030 — four years later than expected a year ago."

"Medicare is adding 10,000 new beneficiaries a day as baby boomers reach age 65. But the report said that costs per beneficiary were essentially unchanged in 2013, for the second year in a row. That particular statistic is critical because per-person costs had surged for many years."

As for energy, maybe Elon Musk and Germany are going to defeat the nattering nabobs of negativism, who are too scared/timid/unimaginative to get out of the dirty comfort of fossil fuels.

http://youtu.be/UnUNnW2DH_M

This video is HIGHLY ironic, because installing solar on the homes of families is going to break the monopolies of energy companies - that is, an INCREASE in FREEDOM, and freemarket opportunities.

On the video, a tea party leader is giving her support for solar - so the base seems to be moving - will Mitchum follow? or will he stick with his oily, fracking benefactors.

Lois - run with solar, and emphasize how it will bring more independence - not down to the state level, not down to the county level, not down to the city/town level, but to the family level. Right down to the level of the freedom to own your own gun and own your own solar energy. Yee ha.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ha "fresh ideas", Mitchum's tone deaf, hackneyed, ideas are the same pre packaged, tea party / Culpepper crap that is used by scores of candidates nationwide. It boils down: to repeal the ACA, drill baby drill, Obama is either a complete idiot or a socialist / fascist master manipulator bent on becoming a dictator, get the illegals out now, get rid of welfare, and of course lower taxes. Those extreme positions are the complete opposite of the majority of the 24th district"s voters. He will lose big this November. This is same "platform" that was pushed by Bobble Head Francisco, Jacquline Smith's husband, and the kinda sorta college football player. This agenda may work in Oklahoma it has failed over and over in this area.

Mitchum is so out of touch with his district that he would use the example of the Galleria to make a lame, uninformed comment on the national economy. That property has been the ultimate Santa Barbara white elephant commercial property since the late 1980s. It has no parking and the small lot it has in crippled by limited access. The Ralph Lauren store left along time ago. In an era of strong State Street rent, the Galleria is about the only place on State a yoga studio or a "sushi bar" with the clearly offensive name "Miso Hungry " could get a lease. The name sounds like a line from one of Mitchum's crap low budget "action" films. I guess when you have $10,000 in your campaign's bank account you cannot be choosy with campaign kickoff party locations.

Mitchum, you are going to lose. Why?

You have no money and since you are such a long shot, no super pac money will be coming your way. Lois has sixty times more money than you have.

Your message is poison in this district. You have not one original idea or program. Your positions are proven losers in this district .

You look like a guy who would be hanging out at Lucky's looking for chicks. Lois looks like my grandmother.

Aside from your small Tea Party and Culpepper cadre, you have no organization. Lois has one of the best message and GOTV operations in the country.

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What in tarnation is this Culpepper people keep referencing?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hope you listen to H-G, Chris, smoke a couple of doobs (or, in your age bracket, pop a couple of high balls at Joe's), continue dozing...and lose, baby, lose big.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Culpeper (someone added a P for no reason except for that it might sound hot) Rebellion 17th century North Carolina .

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Democrats certainly have the politics of personal destruction down pat. Interesting flush of vituperation. Gives Mitchum a chance to know what is coming.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obamacare rates are not stabilized. They are subsidized. Obamacare created an insurance company slush fund to artificially create the appearance of premiium rate stabiity. The slush fund extends naturally only until Obama is finally out of office. It is beyond a cynical to claim Obamacare is working or this deeply flawed program is stablizing health insurance premium rates.

Weekly Standard: "To mitigate potential losses and thus keep insurers on board, Obamacare’s authors devised the “Three Rs”—risk adjustment, reinsurance, and risk corridors. These little-known provisions help entice insurers to sell Obamacare-compliant insurance by subsidizing and stabilizing the exchanges for the first few years."

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 11:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

a number of positive comments about Mitchum here, Jarv (3 by you), others go into Measure P, Israel, and...hey brother, if this is "vituperation" (look the word up) you're a baby. H-G is over the top, and I wasn't so pleasant but did call him a "nice guy". Tabatha was all facts, not nastiness at all. Mitchum knows what's coming and masochistically will "enjoy" his lambasting! You can watch & enjoy it, too, Jarv... you might think of moving to a teabagger heaven/haven where you'll be more in step AND learn just what "vituperation" means.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 3:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JJ - I made the qualification that Medicare rates have stabilized thanks to ACA. The exchanges are too new to make the same claim, but they are predicted to stabilize rates.

Your memory appears to be VERY short. For years medical costs have been increasing exponentially, with medical bankrupticies left, right and center - and bakes sales aplenty to help cover uncovered medical costs.

As for subsidies, you do not get that either.

Taxpayers have ALWAYS been subsidizing those who could not afford coverage. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS - in the very expensive emergency room, thanks to a bill passed by Reagan (I think).

With the ACA, the subsidies continue - but they are CHEAPER, because people NOW PAY, even if a very small amount. It is CHEAPER because care is not in the emergency room, and people can afford preventive care which will stop health conditions becoming horribly expensive to treat.

People who oppose ACA are pound foolish and penny wise - or they just hate everything that Obama does, even if it helps thousands and reduces costs - which btw, are the highest in the civilized world.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 6:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Not helping Israel enough? The best that the US could do would be to back away from Israel on this ill-advised war of choice; Mitchum should read this in the CSM for a greater understanding: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Securi...

at_large (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, Chris Mitchum was smokin' some of his dad's stash, or sniffing some chemicals from their antiperspirant stockpile.

… `that college students vote for them (the SBCC bond) but skip town a few years later, leaving property owners like himself with the bills.'

Whoops. College students pay rent that pays their landlords' property taxes. When college students skip town, new college students move in and keep paying.

Mitchum is making it way to easy for Capps to get >90% of the student vote. He'd do much better to say to college students, `My dad smoked weed. I smoke weed. Vote for me, not someone anti-weed, like a school nurse. In fact, Lois was a school nurse!'

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'd like to welcome Chris to the ranks of losers who attempted to replace Lois!

buckwheat (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The misuse of hospital emergency rooms would have been better solved by expanding public health clinic and greater emphasis on the USPHS since the vast majority of the nation's health problems are poor lifestyle choices and certainly not emergencie needs, which you rightly point out were heavily subsidized.. There was however no reason to take over the entire delievery of health care at every level in the US. Nor is Obamacare even remotely related to health care itself.

Obamacare is a massive, overly-complicated wealth-redistribution scheme that has created even more chaos confounding the real costs and real needs of health care that lead to actual public health improvements for the US population at large.

Any form of third party payor is the problem when it comes to health care options. USPHS is the only viable national option for those who do not choose their own form of fee for service heatlh care and some form of private catastropic insurance coverage. Medical bankruptcies were never the sweeping national problem you state when the facts of each case were more fully investigated.

One messy health care sysemt got substituted for another messy health care system. I am surprised you actually defend this current mess. Take off your ideological blinders and see if you can find a cure for your partisan frothing..

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oops. 20 kids living in the Isla Vista vote to stick it to the one landlord who now has to jack up the rents for the next 20 Isla Vista kids who will continue to vote and run, while hating on the now gouging and greedy landlord.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am no fan of Capps but the last person we need in Congress is a two bit actor who was gifted his place in life by his father. Chris has achieved nothing in his life worthy of regard. Acting is not a skill worthy of being elected unless you think that politicians need to be professional liars... if that' s the case then an actor is a perfect politician. But we all know that while all politicians lie, the best ones have insight, intelligence and ability.

Mitchell is a pathetic hack. Nepotism and inherited stature are not worthy of regard. Hard work, success, natural intelligence and passion are the traits we need... not another idiotic, old, rich, white man who has had everything handed to him on a platinum platter.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Heartbeat? Check.
Not Lois Capps? Check.
Looks like I know who I'm voting for.

SB_Guy (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

except his name is Mitchum, not Mitchell, Sam...I like the British way of identifying the "pale, stale" & can't read the braille of life... Chris never met a barbershop he failed to enter and get a trim.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

“Out of business,” said Mitchum of the luxury brand’s previous shop. “There was nobody to rent it. This is what is happening to our country.” Or could it just be the high Santa Barbara rents?

SFGiants (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

According to his website, Tab, his campaign manager is a scuba diver, white water guide and MMA fighter. Mitchum 's clown car campaign is just kicking off and I am already laughing my ass off.

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Speaking of money for schools, Mitchum also described himself as an “anti-tax” guy and said the problem with bond measures — like the $288 million bond SBCC placed on the November ballot — is that college students vote for them but skip town a few years later, leaving property owners like himself with the bills."

I'm an anti-tax guy too, more than Mitchum is, but this is an illogical argument that assumes future students do not help to pay these bills either and that future students should not have ANY voice which they currently do have via the past students.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Typo,,, Yes, Mitchum not Mitchell.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sure, loonpt, the nature of local politics is that people make up whatever story they feel appropriate to justify gross inequities. National politics can be similar, but at least the media and various ponderous bodies like the OMB slightly (but only slightly) balance the scales. At the local level the press and other media do precious little fact checking.

Think Nancy Crawford-Hall & Steve Pappas who somehow couldn't stop talking about voter fraud in IV, but somehow couldn't document a single case of it in court.

Or the students don't care about the future claim. There will always be students in the future, and every student I talk to knows that and has tried to use their vote with the distant future in mind.

Students are in fact a firehose of money, no or few strings attached, for local institutions. And so locals have to make up stories to justify the ripoff. All the facts, from the 2001 LAFCO studies of Isla Vista to the UCSB LRDP economic studies, document that students are just a firehose of money pocketed by locals.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What the hell is wrong with scuba diving, white water rafting and MMA?

Let's focus on the issues..

The fact is I would LOVE to see a decent conservative go up against Capps...but first they have to be decent and second they have to be able to actually beat Capps.

This foolish "do ANYTHING for Israel" stance is nothing but a huge foreign entanglement with Iran. We need an actual anti-war Republican to run if we want any chance of them winning here. Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul was famous for saying that we should be friends with Iran and that we should maybe start with having a soccer match against them. That's the kind of attitude we need in our politicians.

We also need a Republican who isn't anti-immigrant. Our country caused much of the problems in Honduras and I don't think we need to bus the kids around to all these concentration camps, but I also see borders as imaginary lines that help keep the bovine populace on their respective tax farms so Republicans really should ultimately be open borders if they believe in a free society. We may not be in a position to completely open our borders at this stage, but the anti-immigrant stance is out of line. There is no need to blame immigrants for their horrible circumstances nor should we blame them for attempting to improve their lot in life. In fact, that is one thing that made America special, it was full of many immigrants who were looking for a better life.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ACA is an income transfer program, totally in line with Obama's desire to provide equal outcomes instead of equal opportunity. In case you hadn't noticed, the subsidies come from taxpayers, not from "the government".

Mr. Mitchum will lose because of the radical left wing mentality of the majority of voters in this district who apparently don't care that Lois has never sponsored a bill, lied about how many terms she would run, and (don't forget she regularly touts her medical bona fides) couldn't or wouldn't explain the ACA to her constituents.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If his biggest talking points are that a Ralph Lauren store in a 3rd rate strip mall went out of business (boo hoo) and fracking is good, I think Lois is pretty safe.

AndrewRice (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's almost as if the poor man has been offered up as a sacrificial lamb.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We need another Republican in office like we need another bad ham on stage. Hoping Capps kicks him back into the tar pit he crawled out of.

Draxor (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Loon,

The far right supports Israel more than any other faction because they're Christian fundamentalists. And Christian Fundamentalists believe that Jesus the magic man will reappear in Israel as payback to the Jews...

In other words: They're complete and total religious fundamentalist idiots who believe in a fantasy fable over reality.

And the vast majority of immigrants are not children fleeing violence. They are full grown adults who lie, cheat and steal in order to make more money. The 30 million adults who came here and continue to break the law are not fleeing some war or to escape persecution, they are here to have babies and make more money. Nothing noble about that!

The sooner we enforce the laws and force people both respect and adhere to our countries laws, the better off we will all be. Including the children trying to make it here on their own.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sam, you need to think of these issues from a different perspective which is my whole reason for posting here.

Ya there are a lot of a certain type of Christian fundamentalists who identify with Republicans which is really unfortunate because being pro-war, anti-immigration, anti-civil liberties and pro-statism are not small government positions. There are a lot of people, Christian and non-Christian who are for a smaller less intrusive government that doesn't start wars or covertly try to replace regimes overseas. What are we supposed to do, support Democrats who want to continue the welfare state and grow government more than they seem to want to stop wars of aggression and increase our civil liberties?

Where are the voices or the party for those who want truly limited government, where are they supposed to go?

And Sam, how do you explain Ron Paul, the "far right" Republican candidate for President in 2008 and 2012 who decried that "Gaza is like a concentration camp"?

You can't keep putting everybody in the same "bin" and assuming they all have the same beliefs.

There are in fact a lot of Christian fundamentalist types who believe that when the Bible says to protect Israel it actually means protecting the Palestinians, the European Jews being those who wish to destroy it. It seems pretty obvious to me that those who are on the Palestinian side are for peace and do not promote wars of aggression, which are more in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is the Zionists that are constantly promoting and drumming up war with Palestine and Iran.

Think for yourself.

You really have it wrong when it comes to lumping all these kids from Honduras together as criminals. Most of them have parents from the north, either Mexico or the US and they were dumped in Honduras. The only reason they are criminals is because the cocaine pipeline that the war on drugs created was moved into their country and so from the age of 10 these kids are pushed into using, selling and distributing narcotics by the cartels. It's a really horrible situation, and your entire line of reasoning is completely out of line.

Not to mention, can't you see that bringing the kids here all of a sudden is a staged incident and the government is purposely bringing all of these kids here just to piss off all of the anti-immigrant folks like yourself? They are playing you like a fiddle, they are using a divide and conquer strategy to tear apart the left and the right and we can focus on this instead of focusing on keeping our troops out of war overseas or thinking of ways we can improve health care by bringing it out of the control of government and bringing back free market pricing mechanisms that would significantly reduce the cost of healthcare so everybody could afford it.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Correct me if I'm wrong: has this guy been running for office, and losing, since the mid-90s? Why no mention of his running record in this article?

gannysesh (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loon, First off: Ron Paul was / is a libertarian. The only path to the national stage however is via one of the two parties. He is a Republican in registration only. So keep him out... But look at the facts. The right is fueled and filled with fundamentalists who are willfully ignorant and woefully inadequate.

Separate the 30million illegal immigrants from the rush of youth currently at the border. You keep conflating the issues. These children are indeed fleeing violence and or hostility but the 30 million folks who have come here over the last 30 years did so purely for financial and selfish reasons. And regardless, there are literally a billion people who, if they could, would immigrate to the USA for actual, real, political and or religious persecution. Less than 1% of the millions of people who came here from Mexico or Central America in the last few decades did so under the guise of persecution. They did it for money!

And if you dont like the two parties, make, join, create a new one. Your trying to turn a cat into a dog and its never going to work. The GOP is a party filled with religious idiots. They are not the party of conservatives, they are not the party of sanity, they are the party of denial and revisionist history. In other words: The party of morons.

Stop conflating the issues. Its almost always about money and your continued assessment that we are responsible for the immigration crises because people like cocaine is asinine.

There is a group of people who are 100% responsible for the humanitarian crisis looming on our southern borders. They are the Catholic Church and they and they alone are responsible for the massive poverty and suffering that is in endemic to Mexico and Central America. The blame lies solely on them and their willful ignorance and continued stance on birth control and family planning. Without the Catholic Church’s influence on the millions of impoverished people, the population would be stable and the children would be both fed and loved.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's the problem, Republican and Democrat don't mean anything anymore. You can't define them. Who cares about these labels, or better yet, why try and define everybody who is associated with these labels? 3rd parties in this country are just 3rd rails - political suicide..they were designed to be that way. I'd like to see that change, I just don't see how it could happen at the moment.

When Republicans were in power the last decade, they doubled the size of government, took away civil liberties and put us into endless wars against invisible people.

Democrats claimed that they were pro-peace and pro-civil liberties, but when they got into power they did nothing to curtail the wars or civil liberties violations. In fact, they expanded the wars and the civil liberties violations and instituted Obamacare. There are barely any people or groups within government who advocate a position of small government, so the only choices we have are for big government. That's on purpose.

So what do you do if you are for small government? Do you go with Republicans, who have historically been for small government and have had a history (as long ago as it may be) of being anti-war? Or do you go with Democrats, who are openly for big government to take control of nearly every aspect of our lives and only occasionally pay lip service to peace and civil liberties?

As far as all of the former illegal immigrants, many of them used to ranch on communal land that they and their ancestors had farmed for centuries. It belonged to them, which the Mexican constitution guaranteed. When NAFTA was passed, the US pressured Mexico to come on which required them to change their constitution which took that land away from them and the government kicked the inhabitants off and sold the land to corporations. That is theft, PERIOD. Tens of millions of people were kicked off their land and the poverty rate in Mexico doubled. When the Zapatistas went up against the Mexican military to get their land back, the US backed the Mexican military and the Zapatistas were forced to give up.

If you want to go around blaming anybody for all of the immigration that happened in the last 25 years, it was our country who pressured the politicians in Mexico to change their Constitution which the people of Mexico had fought and died for about a century before. That is what lead to the poverty and the mass-exodus. Ya, a lot of them came here and got free stuff but a lot of them worked and paid taxes as well. In fact, studies have shown that the taxes illegal immigrants pay, often times fraudulently pay, more than make up for the amount of services illegal aliens receive. The fact is that cheap labor benefits in the economy and while I'd prefer it happened more naturally under free market mechanisms, I'm certainly not going to blame the Mexicans for having their land taken from them and refuse to assume that they all came up here for "free stuff" and not a better life and opportunity.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The most competent Republican candidate ever running against Lois Capps was Abel Maldo, who got beat bad by 10%.

That means Mitchum will lose by at least that much, even in a mid-term election.

Next.

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The new Congressional district lines are producing different results. The primary indicated the northern district SLO county vote is a new and powerful player. Maldanado did not run a great campaign and could not get ahead of Capp's lies about his parents perfectly legitimate tax court issue. Mitchum will need to get ahead of Capp's lies too, which is why this early shake-out here is helpful. Such a nice lady, but she lets her people run very dirty campaigns.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the prognosticators out there, remember this iconic picture taken just after the 1948 election?
http://www.teleread.com/wp-content/up...

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volok... Yes these perennial GOP candidates are slaughtered mercilessly. One has to wonder as to motivation... What could it be? Are they offered some sort of promise by party big wigs? What makes them take on such a thankless task?? One also has to wonder as to the intelligence of such people...

BondJamesBond (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

JL: "the radical left wing mentality of the majority of voters in this district " but if they keep electing Lois, hurrah, they are in the middle, John, and thus can't be "radical left"...you make little sense.
Mitchum is a sacrificial left, but like Jarv and that sort, they rather get off on the role.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Davy, there's not much of a "radical left" here, including Capps. They're all just slightly less corporately owned than the regular right.

ahem (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I call it Don Quixote syndrome.

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Im neither on the left or right, Im on the side.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, ahem, agree, and Locke loves to talk about "radical left" ha ha, nutty.
dolphin, you're submerged, & older than DrDan in dolphin years.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 29, 2014 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DavyBrown: Please don't make fun of DrDan because of his advanced age.

He's so old he could be his own grandfather.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 5:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm no fan of Capps, but she has a lock on the job for as long as she chooses to hold onto it. If the Republicans could ever find and run one of those Libertarian types who emerge/transform only in the national elections it seems, their tired party might have a chance. I know it's wrong to comment on appearances, but Mitchum, in the photo here, has that unctuous and anxious look that one usually associates with a used car salesman who's been caught turning back an odometer or something.

zappa (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 6:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

zappa, you, stooping to this sort of characterization?! But yeah, there is a Nixonian cast to his jaw, hardly Reaganesque!

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 6:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BC, I'm guessing I'm at least as old as dolphinpod14 and that sour DrDan

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DavyBrown, do some serious research, or better yet, go live somewhere else (outside CA) for a while and you'll see that Lois is nowhere near the middle. It's simple self-flattery and an attempt to imitate reasonableness that lefties claim to be in the middle. They are not; they are lefties.

But wait! Why not dispense with the labels, left, right, Rep, Dem, etc. and discuss issues? Damn, what a concept! Suggest you read John Adams for an excellent prediction of what a two party system would do to the country.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

An irreverent melody for Lois and Chris, both way past being relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZm0r...

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you could him through my eyes, he wouldn't look Jurassic at all.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 30, 2014 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

An actor/fracker?! Surely we can do much better than him or Lois.

Rinconer (anonymous profile)
July 31, 2014 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, good to know that apparently he just makes stuff up.

Mitchum is off by a factor of ten on oil jobs -- according to the Industry's own study, there are at MOST 1,900 jobs with any even tenuous relation to oil in the County -- a far cry from 18,000!

What's more, Measure P exempts all existing production so none of those jobs are impacted whatsoever.

And it protects the other 99% of jobs that could be negatively impacted by risky and polluting oil extraction.

jdiggs (anonymous profile)
July 31, 2014 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And soulful Chris is a caring, compassionate Christian conservative, witness his loving comment about the 58,000 immigrant children languishing on our southern borders: "And what about immigrant children? 'Send them home,' Mitchum said. 'Absolutely.' "
Have spent much time outside CA, John, I realize how extremely rightwing you are, unfortunately, you lack the self-knowledge and perspective to admit this. Didn't you call yourself "center-left" on these threads, ha ha ha.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
July 31, 2014 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sending the message loud and clear to stay home is the most compassionate message these illegal travellers and their criminal coyotes can get. Few are children, most are part of the criminal human traffiking by choice. Yes, send them home and send them the message they come to this country by lawful means only.

Which means get in line. We queue in America and that needs to be the first lesson they learn. Hard to label this as a right-wing reponse when you see the thrashing the Democrats are taking in the polls.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 31, 2014 at 11:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Regarding Mitchum's support for Israel: this is a Wall Street Journal article, paywalled on WSJ

Wall Street Journal Confirms That Obama is Arming Hamas Terrorists

The standard banker cabal Hegelian dialectic; the people who own the Federal Reserve Bank and control US elections; arm both sides and profit from debt service on war expenses and arms sales.

http://conservativetribune.com/obama-...

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, which was thrown out of Canada because of its lies.

If the WSJ could claim that Obama supported Hamas, then Israel would cause a huge stink because Netanyahu does not mince his words or remain silent or pass up any opportunity to bash Obama.

That claim is about as truthful as the claim that Obama was born in Kenya.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WSJ is good for financial news and the factors that affect financial news. They are not foreign policy setters and don't pretend to be. They follow their own interests and speak only for themselves. Read the WSJ with that bias in mind, but do not quote is as support for anything else outside its expertise and orientation.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody but Capps

nuffalready (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

13 rules for truth suppression:

1.Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

2.Wax indignant. This is also known as the "how dare you?" gambit.

3.Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors."

4.Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5.Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nut," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and of course, "rumor monger." You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money.

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8..Dismiss the charges as "old news."

9.Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hang-out route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken.

10.haracterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11.Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. For example: We have a completely free press. If they know of evidence that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) had prior knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing they would have reported it.
They haven't reported it, so there was no prior knowledge by the BATF. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press that would report it.

12..Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. For example: If Vince Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13.Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or reporting a distraction

.25 rules of disinformation:

http://caught.net/prose/truthno.htm#D...

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ha, 14noscams, and you quote Breitbart?! ha ha
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/20...

DrDan (anonymous profile)
August 2, 2014 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DrDan - YOU QUOTE PRAVDA?
You have a problem using a refererence who was murdered just before releasing destructive info on Obama, followed by the murder of the medical examiner who did his autopsy?
No bias there.
Sad, drdan

Posted on July 27 at 11:23 p.m.

random, KV has a point, and there are recent articles showing how sophisticated Russian propaganda has become on social and info media...your emphasis on "false flag" comes out of .ru propaganda sites: here is one stating NATO is arming up vs. Russia, using "false flag" stuff: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/colu...
Please consider this: YOU HAVE BEEN WORKED and tricked, random...
Obama is being hammered by our Right Wing for NOT moving armor and NATO military east toward Russia...don't you get it: Putin wants this, to strengthen his hand in Russia... just as Netanyahu NEEDS Hamas...

On Germany Awake, America Asleep?

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 3, 2014 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To reference Breitbart is to reference a liar. What supposedly destructive info did that clown have on Obama? How do you know the clown or the medical examiner were murdered?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
August 3, 2014 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Back on March 1st it was Andrew Brietbart himself the subject of a highly coincidental passing. The very day he was to submit videos about Obama that, only weeks earlier in a highly-publicized speech, he claimed were finally going to vet the President. Something, he said, that had yet to be truly done by anyone in the media.

LA County Forensic Technician, Michael Cormier was apparently involved in the the autopsy and was set to submit a final report about the details surrounding Breitbart's untimely passing. Unfortunately, he never got that chance as he too was killed in what seems to be a likely related homicide.

Cormier was rushed to Providence St. Joseph Medical Center in Burbank last week and died as a result of what the hospital is reporting as a poisoning. Police have already ruled out suicide as a potential cause."

http://www.examiner.com/article/breit...

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 3, 2014 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Breitbart was always claiming bs like that, he was promoting himself and his site. You're assuming the videos had anything substantial.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
August 3, 2014 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's astonishing how many Lois Capps lovers/defenders there are out there. I would never vote from Chris Mitchum, but we all should admit Lois Capps is a do-nothing train wreck who has totally overstayed her welcome in Congress. We need a legitimate DEMOCRAT to challenge and beat her. Someone who has a well-developed vision, who can articulate it to the district. Until then we get to settle for two out-of-touch seniors as our candidates. We can and should expect better.

Indyholio (anonymous profile)
August 4, 2014 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Indyholio please let us know what criteria you have for a candidate being a "legitimate DEMOCRAT."

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
August 4, 2014 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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