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Beanie Baby Billionaire Sentenced to Probation For Tax Evasion


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Santa Barbara’s Beanie Baby tycoon, Ty Warner, avoided a jail sentence today when a federal judge in Chicago placed him on probation for two years for hiding millions in a Swiss bank account.

Warner, owner of the Four Seasons Biltmore, San Ysidro Ranch, Montecito Country Club, and other local properties, will have to perform 500 hours of community service. Prosecutors urged a year of jail time, but Warner’s attorneys proposed community service, citing his charity work and unhappy childhood.

Warner had pleaded guilty to tax evasion and promised to pay more than $16 million in back taxes and a $53 million penalty. He could have been sentenced to up to 57 months behind bars. Prosecutors said that at one point he was concealing as much as $107 million.

Warner apologized in court last year and wiped tears from his eyes. The judge today said Warner’s “public humiliation” was punishment enough and that jail was not needed. Warner is worth $2.6 billion, according to Forbes.

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i hope he was polite enough to wait until boarding his private jet before busting out into uncontrollable laughter.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

aww, and he wiped tears from his 'lil Beany Baby eyes, the judge bought it and agree lawdy, Ty had to be cackling with derision boarding his plane. And "three strikes" in California has landed thousands into our over-crowded & expensive prisons for marijuana possession and other similarly non-violent crimes. But ya see, Ty is worth $2.6 billion and the Chicago judge --Chicago! -- gave him a wink and a nod. What a lesson for the young to observe.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Money talks kids, fact of life here. Public humiliation was punishment enough? Lesson here is if you get caught in the act, act humiliated, you'll avoid the klink. But you got to have money because it talks.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey, Hey...
In the state where two 300lb cops beat A 98lb mentally ill homeless man to death and are aquitted....
in a city where the homeless spend more time in jail than the paroled knife wielding, brother stabbing, car stealing, van blazing "I WANT TO BE KILLED BY THE COPS!" maniacs....
WHAT IN GOD'S NAME DID YOU EXPECT?"

MAKES ME SICK.....

touristunfriendly (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Warner deserves credit for public service already performed in this town. And that was when he did not even need to.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what a surprise. foofie standing by at SBA to high five warner. pucker up big boy.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He has already paid more in taxes (aka had more stolen from him) than everybody commenting in this article combined including foo so unless he has done something bad to you personally, then you can just stfu. He didn't have to be successful and make money, he could have lived in a shack by the river and guess what? We would all be the worse off for it because by increasing production in the goods and services sector he increased the total amount of goods and services for everybody to use and saved us all money and made our lives better. Even if you could care less about Beanie Babies like me.

Now if we were talking about the CEO of a Citi Bank or some government sucking contractor or financial institution that just counterfeits a bunch of money and charges people interest on it or profits off of our overseas death machine then you would have a point. These leaches on society need to be stopped. But let's differentiate between these people and those who provide valuable goods and services to people who pay for it voluntarily.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

agree, tourist, and loon/foo worship money so boy oh boy if Ty's "already paid more in taxes" then he SHOULD get off, right? What about taxes on the $107 million he concealed? Pucker up loon/foo, like another poster suggested.
Oh, wait a minute, according to his defense poor 'lil Ty-sie experienced an "unhappy childhood." Ooh, how wretched for him. Do we accord this kind of thoughtfulness and suspension of 57 month sentences when a supposed gang banger's attorney cites HIS very difficult life growing up in poverty on our lower Eastside?

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

loonpt...
get behind foo please
Ty's butt can only handle one pucker at a time!

touristunfriendly (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here we go, progressives worshiping and coveting OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. What a surprise.

tourstunfriendly, honestly, the only good point I can see being made is that Ty was being treated differently than us regular folk. If us regular folk had evaded taxes 1/1000th of the amount of Ty we would likely be behind bars.

I get it. It sucks. But just because you are getting raped in the butt doesn't mean that when somebody avoids such a fate when they never harmed anybody else you should be shouting from the roof top to make sure their butt gets raped, too.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's start with some basic economics cuz I can see some of you are a little behind.

Look around you, think about the grocery store down the street, all the food inside. Think of all of the shopping malls, all of the water, gas and electricity going into your house. Think of amazon.com and all the products and services available on the internet.

Now think about what's really important. Your family and your friends and the activities you enjoy. Now think about how all of the products and services you are able to have affect the quality of life you have with all of those people.

Now separate out the products and services again. Put them all inside a pie shell. Slice the pie into 6 or 7 billion slices, some slices bigger than others. How big is your slice? How happy are you with the size of your slice of the pie? I hope you are grateful for the slice you have, but there is a good chance you want to grow your slice orr maybe you want to help grow other people's slice.

How do we make a slice of pie bigger?

There are ONLY two ways to make a slice of pie bigger.

#1 - You can make other's or somebody else's slice smaller

#2 - You can make the ENTIRE PIE bigger

#1 hurts everybody else

#2 doesn't just make your slice bigger, it makes EVERYBODY'S slice bigger. #2 helps everybody else.

Ty Warner grew the pie bigger. He benefited a lot, but so did everybody else. Ty Warner didn't take anything from you, he earned it all. You have no right to what he has. You voted for people who support theft, aka taxation, and they will send violent thugs to your house and threaten you with prison if you don't pay your taxes.

If you want to know why inequality and poverty exist there are two reasons:

1) Government regulations on banking and financial institutions that counterfeit money via the Federal Reserve Bank, causing massive price inflation on goods and services as well as government regulations that limit private voluntary consensual transactions.

2) Still developing. Humans have lived in poverty for about 100,000 years. 150 years ago most Americans 'thriving' in the industrial revolution lived in horribly impoverished conditions. What resulted from that is what we have today. The great news is that today, most of these developing countries don't take 150, 100 or even 50 years to go from developing to having a relatively good standard of living. It's more like 20 or 30 years. So the real disparity is not the standard of living here vs. some developing country, look at the disparity in terms of how many years behind they are and how many more they have to go relative to how long humans have had to live in these conditions. Really, these developing countries are better off than our country was because they will develop much more quickly and have a better standard of living much faster. We're ALREADY helping them get there. Instead of getting in the way, get out of the way and let it happen!

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ah, looney, enjoy your self-absorbed money lecture; you lose me when writing "You voted for people who support theft, aka taxation," BS.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

we've had the progressive income tax since 1912: get over it, loon, 102 years have passed.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oops, 1913 with the 16th Amendment to the Constitution: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." Deal with it, fella, I know I pay my taxes

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The myth of charity.

Is there room for charity in society? Absolutely. Inevitably some people will not be able to provide for themselves and it is very noble to help make sure these people get help.

On the other hand, when we send 800 tons of grain to Africa and plop it on their food market, all of the local food producers get undercut and go out of business. Then guess what happens? Next year these poor people in Africa are dependent on others for help because they have no local food economy. We send them money, the politicians take it and their governments become even more corrupt. Progressives and philanthropists, learn economics before trying to help people on a massive scale please!! You end up killing people using your good intentions in the long run and it's really sad.

Bill Gates thinks he is such a great guy giving away all his money.. Yes, if I were Bill Gates I would in fact find a way to give away a good portion of my money to people who really need it. But what else could Bill Gates do with his money that would help people even more than charity? He could use the profits from Microsoft to invest in a new business that employs thousands of people that ends up sustainably producing goods and services for people to raise their standard of living. Investing in businesses is much more effective than giving away charity because it continually provides dividends in the form of goods and services. Writing a check doesn't create goods and services, it distributes them differently. ONE TIME. Remember, growing the whole pie is far more effective than increasing the size of one slice at the expense of other(s). Investing in a business grows the pie not just once, but over and over and can put others in position to invest and grow the pie even further.

Economics is the key to preventing disparity and poverty. We just need to learn economics first. Austrian Economics, specifically, cause all the other economic systems aren't real economics where they may disagree with Austrian Economics, they are based on known logical fallacies.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He created a Sea Center for us dolphins and now this has to happen. FInally we get some recognition and then this. Can we ever catch a break?

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DavyBrown - has it ever occurred to you as being odd that the Federal Reserve Bank and the Income Tax both began in the year 1913?

If you take the short amount of time it takes to try to read and understand my posts, you will see that I blame all of the poverty in this country on the Federal Reserve who essentially counterfeit money for the rich and well connected. This devalues all of our money and any hurts anybody on a fixed income, poor people the most through price increases on all of our goods and services. Ever wonder why technology prices are always dropping and everything else always goes up? Well that's because the government heavily regulates everything in this country except technology. The government doesn't require that computers come with 16 airbags, so technology companies can actually focus on producing a better product for the consumer no matter how it comes about.

I recommend you learn how the Federal Reserve and Income Tax are connected (Hint: The total amount of income tax paid in this country only covers the INTEREST payment on our National Debt and none of the principal)

Try this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5k...

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

*In before somebody says they are glad their car comes with 16 government mandated airbags..

The point is that if they weren't mandated, there is a good chance car companies would come up with a different way to make cars even safer than with having 16 airbags. But since they are required to have 16 airbags, we will not see this technology for a while longer most likely.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ah, gotta love the loony conspiracies. References to the "war on drugs" coming up in 3... 2... 1...

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

loonpt, weeding through your dense prose, there are some kernels of clarity and wisdom. BTW: How are your bit coins doing?

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bitcoin has been holding steady at around $900/coin

Good news coming in all around. People in China are figuring out how to use it without their government's approval.

A few weeks ago Overstock.com announced they would be accepting bitcoin within 6 months. I guess it was easier to implement than they thought, as they started accepting them already. They racked up $124k in sales in the first 24 hours. Good decision.

Bitcoin Core developer Gavin Andersen will be visiting the Council on Foreign Relations for a Q & A in February. These are the people who control foreign policy of all major nations, who of course control the foreign policy of everybody else.

Elliptic - the first secure and fully insured bitcoin storage facility:

https://www.elliptic.co/

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would've jailed him for inflicting beanie babies on us to begin with, all made with Chinese slave labor.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dense.....with kernels. Could not be a more apt description. Foofie must own a dog.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting how anti-establishment types still depend upon WASP establishment values, even when they think they are going rogue. Things like: trust, insurance, safety, security, value, fair trade. And acquisition of goods.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting how class envy types resent the anti-establishment types for demanding the playing board be equal.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"some have less"
Which makes it the responsibility of those with more to act accordingly...
to act more responsibility not give us some baloney after they've got caught!
Or
We could give the rapist, murdering thugs a break if they show a little charity.
How about giving the homeless drunk a bottle of volka before you kill someone.
I'm sure our judge will see the good in you too! how bout you foo...
Make you feel any better?

touristunfriendly (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

F.A. Hayek did have some good ideas, but they weren't in his 'serfdom' rag which HE knew to be a W W II propaganda piece. 16th Amendment, enjoy paying your taxes, loon and foo.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, Ken, if Person A and B are both found guilty of possessing cannabis and person A gets a year in prison and person B is released, I'm not going to demand that person B be sentenced to a prison term in order to "keep the playing field equal", I'm going to fight to have both of them cleared of any crime. Same in this case.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Davy I'm confused, are you trying to say that Hayek wrote a pro-WWII propaganda book?

In fact it was actually quite the opposite. Hayek stresses that war spending does not help the economy, despite what many other economists have falsely proclaimed.

If war spending helped the economy, then why don't we just start dropping bombs in the middle of the ocean? Or send them out in to space? How does sending metal into space help the economy? The answer is it doesn't. It's a retarded concept that many economists today still cling to. It is the basis for those economists who promote neo-conism and progressivism as having the ability to improve the economy. Keynesianism itself is a logical fallacy.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just wars in the past made people want to give money to the government. to arm and defend itself. And that is how wars helped the economy, by voluntary action dedicated to a common goal.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

not at all, he was worried that people thought "capitalism" was associated with fascism, so Road was to correct that mistaken view of the late '30s.

DavyBrown (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is an timely suggestion: exchange public service for extended jobless benefits. File under: well, duh?

http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/pryor-...

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 6:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ty...seriously, be more careful next time. If you're worth billions, why fuss over what for you is pocket change? This reminds me of Martha Stewart.

The deeper message here (yes folks, I'm actually getting serious on this post) is don't let your money get the better of you, don't let it own you and take over your soul.

Think of all those who have "made it" financially and STILL end up broke and/or in jail. Human nature is an awful thing, and the beast of greed lives in all of us and Warner's example should warn us not to judge, but to see how easily our own nature can take us down.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 6:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"exchange public service for extended jobless benefits"
Exactly what kind of public service should those unemployed be doing? Jobs that other people already have so they are then thrown out of work and in the end everyone is working for less pay than ever?
Yea real smart. Have you ever had any real world experience at all?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dolphinpod will pucker in 5,4,3....

that's ablah blah ref
funny!

touristunfriendly (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dolphin, shows why envying the "rich" can be such a waste of time.

They do carry many burdens many would never want to share. If they want to take the risks and the sleepless nights to be hugely successful by their own standards, I say more power to them.

And the rest of us should just let them be, because wealth can own you, as you say.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wealth isn't the same as success, it just makes success slightly easier.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
January 14, 2014 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My thoughts turn to the late Henry "Hank" Sarria who died of Asperger's Syndrome in 2008. I think of his bestselling motivation book "Ten ways to succeed in business while failing at life".

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 6:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is it just me or do about half these posts seem irrelevant? More like a personal argument of ideology between some posters? Maybe you guys should meet for coffee. Now back on topic.

This guy should have gotten at least a taste of jail, 6 months. The proverbial slap on the wrist will do nothing to deter him or the likes of him from pulling the same shenanigans. It is a problem systematically with this country that the wealthy think they can get away with murder...or at least hiding 100 million in an overseas account. Perhaps he will have LiLo moment and try it again. Hopefully the judge comes down WAY harder. My bet is he will emigrate to France. The whole "had a rough childhood" thing makes me want to hurl. Seriously? Awww poooor baby. Absolutely ridiculous. Lots of us have had rough childhoods. I believe he is intelligent enough (he is obviously very intelligent) to have grasped the difference between right and wrong, and trying to slip one (actually 100 million) by.

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Exchanging public service for extended jobless benefits is a win-win. Public dollars spend should require public services in return.

This takes away no one else's jobs and adds value to the exchange. Much like agreeing to sobriety is the proper price, when demanding public vagrancy services.

Value offered for value received is the best way to bring dignity back to people's lives.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

foofighter, come on, I thought you knew economics better than that.

Are you saying that if you threw out your refrigerator and one of your cars tomorrow that some how your standard of living would be 'better'??

Wars do not improve the economy or the standard of living, it breaks the 'broken window' logical fallacy (read this link):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_...

Economists who have continued to propagate this blatantly false notion over the last several decades are knowingly or unknowingly pushing pro-war pro-imperialist propaganda.

There have been ZERO "Just" wars in our recent history. The only "Just" wars we have fought were the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. George W. Bush's Grandfather along with other major US Corporations helped to fund Hitler's military empire during WWII. To say that WWII was a "Just" war would be like us giving Iran $4 trillion to spend on their nuclear and military programs and then going in and attacking them 2 years later. You also have to realize that every major war, both sides of the wars, are funded by the same people, the same banking institutions. They decide who wins the wars when they stop funding one side of the fight. Everything else you know about all of our recent wars are complete manufactured propaganda.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bimbo, you don't get it, jail is for people who hurt other people or damage or steal their property.

Ty earned his money, we have no right to it. If we had a fair society then it's the people who want to take Ty's money by force like you who actually belong in jail. Get off your high horse, this discussion needs to be had, people need to think about why it is ok to steal from other people. Most of the richest people in the world are rich because they steal from other people through the state-legitimized fraudulent banking/financial system. That's why there are so many impoverished people and that is why there is so much debt. However there is no excuse for taking money from people who provide goods and services to society, they are already providing more than their share we don't need to ask them to do anymore. If they want to do more, then that is their choice.

Everybody apparently needs to go back to pre-school to re-learn that stealing from other people is wrong. Asking other people to steal for you is wrong, even if you put a pretty badge on their chest or call them "the government".

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Loon, just so we are clear, you are saying Ty Warner's taxes should be optional at his discretion because he supplied the world with beanie babies?

I disagree. I think if everyone paid 25% (flat tax) except for the destitute, the world would be a better place. :)

I also think if you knowingly welch on your taxes like this guy, you should get to stay in the big house at least for a few months just so you get to see what you are paying for like law, order, and infrastructure.

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Meanwhile, back to the real story line: Ty Warner paid his team of lawyers several thousands of dollars per hour to come up with this for a defense: "he had an unhappy childhood"! Wow - what an indictment of capitalism! That no matter how successful, no matter how many BILLIONS a person is allowed to accumulate, an unhappy childhood can never be compensated by insane wealth, and also serves to excuse any anti-social or illegal behavior! With such an idiotic defense thrown up in my behalf, I would have tears in my eyes, too! What a hoot...

As to the back and forth about taxes - - get a life, to those who despise them. Like the old bible says: to whom much is given, much is expected. Complain all you want about the cabal of taxes and Federal Reserve Board conspiracies, the wealthiest middle class in history was created in America during the last hundred years - until greed began to disassemble it over the past 30 years. Ayn Rand admiration is as infantile as she was.

Pagurus (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bimbo, I've already explained in this comment section that income taxes only cover the interest on the National Debt. They don't cover any of the things you are talking about.

I would also gladly pay for many of those very same services if they were VOLUNTARY. Forcing people to pay for our overseas death machine and killing millions of innocent people is immoral, but it is also immoral to force your neighbor to pay for a road at gunpoint. And Pagurus has the gal to tell me that killing millions of innocent people is a God given "gift" to me!! What a freaking joke. The government takes nearly half my income and hands it over to bankers, that is not a gift.

If people didn't have nearly half their income stolen every year just to pay the interest to banks on the National Debt so that they can ram even more debt down our throat then we would have plenty of money to pay for things we need here in the community and even more left over.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Earth to loonpt: we are not still killing millions of people overseas. That is so yesterday. Doesn't erase the blood that is on our hands; but that was a long, long time ago. Unless you want to count Obama's latest red line threats to start killing Syrian. But we all rose up, even against Lois Capps, and said NO! Yes, even me.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We still have a trillion+ $ overseas military empire with over 400 bases in over 120 countries. We still have countless puppet dictators receiving tens of billions of dollars in military equipment and aid. Until we close down the bases overseas and the troops come home and we stop giving foreign aid, we are still responsible for a lot of the killing going on around the world, which has never stopped.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Due Process under the Law.

He should have done some time or no one should ever again for that particular crime.

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Due Process under the Law is never an excuse to restrict a person's rights or freedoms who has not hurt anybody, stolen or damaged any property. The Jews faced due process under the law in WWII, they had IBM computers that kept track and processed them as they traveled on trains to concentration camps. It was all completely legal.

The law does not equivocate morality and nobody should ever insinuate that it does.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Due Process is fair notice and a fair trial, when the government asserts their rights against an individual. You are making up the rest of it, green. You want retribution. I suggest you just take the money and run - he forked over plenty to cash in fines and penalties for a non-violent crime.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"My thoughts turn to the late Henry "Hank" Sarria who died of Asperger's Syndrome in 2008. I think of his bestselling motivation book "Ten ways to succeed in business while failing at life"."

Mentioned that guy in a recent post about Elings Park. Was out mountain biking there, stopped by the BMX track, asked for him, there he was, all smiles. We chatted for a bit & he's doing great, busy with work, cycling, some crazy stuff about skateboarding and such.
He's a big kid with a lot of energy. Well, not big in size, just in spirit. The guy can't sit still! He got banned from here he says. Nice guy though.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hank is a great guy.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
January 15, 2014 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Due process is best defined in one word--fairness. Throughout the U.S.'s history, its constitutions, statutes and case law have provided standards for fair treatment of citizens by federal, state and local governments. These standards are known as due process. When a person is treated unfairly by the government, including the courts, he is said to have been deprived of or denied due process."

So Beanie Baby walks but Wesley Snipes goes to Jail.

Again the crimes alleged by the Government are evasion of Taxes.

Now I think the 16th Amendment was the beginning of the end of this Republic but the 14th Amendment and the "Due Process Clause" was designed to make sure that all Citizens are treated fairly and equally in the eyes of the law, instead of certain classes of people having more rights than others.

So does Beanie Baby have more rights than Snipes?

Many people have been jailed over their protest of the 16th Amendment.

Beanie Baby filed false and erroneous Tax Returns, what's the difference?

"Snipes, 50, was convicted of three misdemeanor counts back in 2008 for failing to file tax returns from 1999-2001. During the three-year period, Snipes cheated the government out of $7 million, reports New York's Daily News. He lost an appeal for a retrial in 2010, which resulted in his being sentenced to three years at a McKean Federal Correctional Institution in Pennsylvania, where he was housed with roughly 290 white-collar inmates."

Loon and Foo you are supporting a multi-class system where Liberty is for-sale to the man with the deepest pockets.

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

howgreenwasmyvalley: "Loon and Foo you are supporting a multi-class system where Liberty is for-sale to the man with the deepest pockets."

BADDABING! By Jove, I believe he nailed it.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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