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<b>ADULT ENTERTAINMENT:</b> After the weekend, Foot Patrol Officer Mark Ward called Isla Vista “the Disneyland for rioters, but you don’t have to pay to get in.”

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ADULT ENTERTAINMENT: After the weekend, Foot Patrol Officer Mark Ward called Isla Vista “the Disneyland for rioters, but you don’t have to pay to get in.”


Deltopia Party Devolves Into Isla Vista Riot


Sunday, April 6, 2014
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Deltopia, the annual social media-promoted street party in Isla Vista, took a violent turn Saturday night, when many of the 15,000 in attendance began throwing rocks, bricks, and bottles at authorities after an arrest related to a UCSB Police officer being hit in the head with a backpack stuffed with alcohol bottles. Sheriff’s Department spokesperson Kelly Hoover said the riot broke out on the 6700 block of Del Playa Drive around 9:30 p.m. and “soon afterward the situation escalated into a major disturbance, emergency situation.”

Hoover said authorities from around the county and also from Ventura County joined the Sheriff’s Department in dealing with the crowd, which she said also took to destroying stop signs, lighting small fires, and damaging police cars. Law enforcement used tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse the group. Hoover said the process took several hours and that five Sheriff’s deputies were injured, including one who was hit in the face with a brick and two who were hit in the hands with bottles.

The riot resulted in 26 people being sent to the hospital, Hoover added, and 18 arrests. Over the course of the day, more than 100 people were arrested and 44 people were sent to the hospital. Sirens and helicopters could be heard throughout the Goleta Valley into the wee hours.

The 15,000 revelers were reportedly made up of college students — and some high school students — from around the state. On social media, alongside half-nude selfies and swilling shots, the buzz was that the party had gotten out of hand, that this was probably the last Deltopia ever, and that out-of-towners had no respect for the community and led the violence and trashing. There was also some anti-police rhetoric, and video footage of the scene showed lots of defiant revelers openly taunting authorities, with at least three stop signs being hoisted in the air. Many compared the day to the feature film Project X, in which a dream party full of liquor and drugs commences and disorder results.

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In poor countries, people riot for human rights.
In rich countries, people riot for self-entitlement.
- AB in SB

andrewbaker77 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Where was Sheriff Bill Brown? In his helicopter?
I understand from one of the sheriff's deputies that the day shift was sent home at 9:30pm, so Bill wouldn't have to pay overtime.
There was no planning by SBSO. They didn't know how to handle the gangs from Oakland and LA that came to rape the UCSB girls.

Looper (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is it true Floatopia is next weekend?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To our sheriff and Board of Supervisors:
We have had enough of this nonsense!

fredb93117 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

what a nightmare, the affluenza is running rampant with this generation. like AB said, poor folks riot when life has become so hopeless they've no options left. these kids were rioting for fun, they totally trashed the town and now we have to clean up after them.

StockiestCastle (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You can't riot without cops, maybe the riot police should have gone home. A riot requires instigation by authority. I don't know any riots that have not been instigated by police in some shape or form.

The Stop sign thing was actually pretty funny, they were all pointing the Stop signs at the police telling them to to STOP.

Another thing. There was a noise ordinance this year. You take away the music and then you get upset when they get bored and create havoc? Stop the tyranny, leave IV alone.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Too much alcohol and too much self-entitlement. I hope the injured officers will be OK.

LegendaryYeti (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I certainly don't condone all of the behavior that went on last night, but most of it was instigated by the authorities, either directly or due to the noise ordinance (I will discuss the noise ordinance again later). The bad behavior that wasn't instigated by authorities that lead to people or property being injured, something like a stabbing, was caused by probably less than a half a dozen individuals out of tens of thousands of people. You can't put the blame for what a very few people did on the other tens of thousands, for example saying that there was a stabbing and some how this was the fault of everybody who came from out of town or something. I guarantee if you go around and interview the people from out of town they came to visit a friend or they carpooled down with somebody who knows somebody in IV. This isn't out of towners just crashing a party like some people like to portray it, these are for the most part invited guests with a few exceptions and some bad apples mixed in here or there.

But as they say, MUSIC calms even the savage beast. I'm not saying if they had music things would have been perfect, but they sure as hell weren't BETTER without it, were they? Lesson learned? Are they going to stop having noise ordinances during these things?

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lock someone in a cage for 13 years (our public education system) and the set them free to go live with other former prisoners and yeah you are going to have some self-entitlement. But what are you going to do about self-entitlement and alcohol? In 4 years there will be a whole new group of students doing the same thing with the same attitude. Forget this group of students, how are you going to change the next one?? Are you even thinking about that?

But honestly, you people looking at this from the outside can't even see it from their perspective and all you can do is mass label the entire group without even thinking about what a great time most of them had that day on very little. Vodka shots and budlight are not expensive and most people had beer or vodka shots and food and entertained themselves with their friends. What did you do on Saturday? How much money did you spend? I'll bet those self-entitled kids you speak of spent less money and almost none of them except a tiny handful, mostly instigated by authority, did any real damage. Most of them got up that day, hung out with their friends and drank and had a great time celebrating spring time and warmer weather coming and then many decided to go congregate on del playa as is the tradition. Where's the self entitlement in hanging out with your friends? Or are you talking about the guy who jumps up on the car? Or is he just really drunk?

I guess what I'm saying is don't be so judgemental of everybody there and don't group everybody in with what only a small handful did - and look at what instigated most of the violence (the police). I hope any students who were injured by the police or otherwise are ok.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Loonpt - Blame the riot on whatever you want, it does not matter. There will be no Deltopia next year. Also, the police need to be there so people don't die, throwing stuff at them, specifically their heads, is never acceptable. Grow up.

Josh (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most actual IV residents are not happy about Deltopia, now more than ever. Most of those people were from OUT OF TOWN and many not even students.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cry me a River.

My goddaughter has 12+4+4+4=24 years of education and uses her vacation time to work in South American on her own dime and flight expense to help children. 24 years of education is what it takes to earn an M.D. in pediatrics/internal medicine, she never had time to waste at the Party Dude.

Her sister has 12+3+4=19 years of education and graduates next month with a DVM and starts an internship. She donates her time down in South America also, in animal husbandry, on her own dime and flight expense. She graduated from college in 3 years, never had time to waste frying brain cells. Oh and she earned a M.S. while in Vet School.

Some people are interested in making a difference, other just dividing by ZERO.

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If they didn't fight the police, they would have fought each other. It was a night of alcohol-fueled debauchery any way you look at it. The authorities were better off controlling it rather than let them burn IV to the ground.

I can always count on the people in IV to prove I'm right.

Botany (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loonpt - "us people" on the outside understand immature people get out of control and injure people and destroyed property. Regardless of the partier's perspective, it is a guarantee Deltopia is DOA, done, you blew it. Enjoy the county lockdown next year, it was a group effort, but you all earned it together so you'll own it together.

Josh (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Seems to me that primarily blaming the police for the violence is being pretty judgmental yourself, loonpt - exactly what you are telling others not to do.

LegendaryYeti (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Josh please tell me the lengths of which and how much money you think it is worth spending to turn IV into a concentration camp for several weeks around the time of deltopia in order to "prevent" it which you think you some how have the power and/or authority to do? I know of students who live in IV and work in Goleta and they couldn't make it to work Saturday because of all the police oppression and blockades this weekend. You can't keep treating that community like a prison.

I just don't understand why you can't see the connection - the more the police crack down, the more restrictions are put in place, the more cameras are put up, the MORE riots and problems there are.

Get rid of the music restrictions so the kids have something to do, put some police out there to help prevent violent behavior and stop using the police to instigate riots.

Leave IV alone.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Police are not residents of IV, LegendaryYeti, and they were not invited to IV unlike the vast majority of the out of towners who were invited by residents. Then they got there and there were music restrictions by the authorities. What do you expect would happen??

Of course it is the police's fault there was a riot, you can't have a riot without police. Try it sometime, it doesn't work. Every riot in history has been started in some way shape or form by police.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's naive to think that all those people were personally invited by residents of IV. But many residents of IV invited the police last night.
It's not fun to have your home trashed, your friends beaten, your car car destroyed..

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It pains me to say this but I agree with Loon

Look at the chronology

First there was Floatopia and the beach was left a complete mess and there were lots of arrests for public intoxication and several medical emergencies so the County decided to close the beach the next year and that certainly did not work out so well

Then with the beach closed there was Deltopia and lots of arrests for public intoxication and several medical emergencies so the County decided to ban music and stop the party and that year there was even one very unfortunate death

This year music was banned again and they decided to close Del Playa and that certainly did not work out so well either.

It would appear that the more the County tries to close things down the more opposition and antagonism they will create

The solution is more likely to be to reopen the beach, reopen Del Playa, allow all the music and partying and simply expect foolish drunken behavior self-destructive but at the same time avoid the confrontation with authority that will occur when the authorities try to corral or prevent the party entirely

Yes there will be certainly excessive clean up costs and yes local residents will be likely unhappy for another weekend each year (just like Halloween) and yes there will be medical emergencies but there will likely also be fewer arrests for assault on law enforcement officers or for "unlawful assembly" and certainly far less confrontational behavior.

It simply isn't going to go away but trying to stop it entirely wont work.

Instead the County needs to be prepared to handle the situation cooperatively not confrontationally and try to work with the revelers not against them.

I suspect that will result in a far better outcome for all.

RobEgenolf (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fascism and Anarchy,

never is there one without the other.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A student perspective on Noozhawk.

http://www.noozhawk.com/article/ucsb_...

RobEgenolf (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RobE gets what I'm saying - the least amount of injury and destruction will occur when the police leave the crowds alone let them party and listen to music and instead look out for individuals destroying property or hurting people. The crowd is not the enemy unless you make them your enemy.

Another problem is you have the cops enforcing public intoxication laws where the entire public is intoxicated. Everybody is intoxicated, but if you have a beer in your hand or an open bottle of alcohol in your backpack to bring to another party you can be arrested. The notion is pretty absurd. If the cops would stick to arresting people who are breaking things or hurting people and leave others alone for the most part they would be more respected.

And as far as the out of towners I didn't say they were all personally invited, they usually come in groups of the size that can fit in a car or two. Probably well over 95% of the groups that came at least ONE person in the group of 1-8 people (average 2-4) was personally invited by someone in IV, who did not discourage them from bringing friends.

I had a friend in IV when I lived there who was always a huge proponent of biking and so he was majorly embarrassed when he invited up some friends, who brought some friends who he didn't know to IV on Halloween and one of them stole a relatively expensive bmx bike that belonged to somebody he knew. Fortunately it got returned eventually, but that guy wasn't invited back. All you can do is encourage people to invite friends they know, be safe and allow the free movement of people.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The difference between Fiesta - love it or hate it - and these 'spontaneous' social networked bashes is that the Fiesta at least has responsible people organizing, planning, and working with public safety agencies, not in opposition to them. It's natural for kids to rebel against authority and go into "don't tell me what to do" mode, and to be over confident that they've got it covered when they can't possibly.

But there are some real permanent residents trying to make lives in I.V., not just student renters laying waste - and each other - while only passing through. The county has duties to protect their peace and property, too. It's a permanent urban community, not transitory student housing or South Padre Island. The full-time residents and property owners have a right to live without fear of fair-weather riots and vandalism when irresponsible "come one, come all" invites are broadcast.

If such events as the Halloween thing and this one are going to be permitted, then maybe a visit by some reps of the New Orleans PD are in order to share ideas on managing drunk and rowdy crowds without inciting them to self-righteous indignation. At the least the UCSB administration needs to step up, along with local beer and wine merchants, property owners, law enforcement, and residents to sort lessons learned from this disgraceful showing and structure future UCSB/I.V. festivals more like the organized chaos that is Fiesta than the mess these alcohol-fueled mobs continue to create.

anemonefish (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok after reading the noozhawk piece I will rescind the 95% claim, but I would also say that later in the night when she said that a lot of people didn't have a place to go, after the riots and the bullets and tear gas, the people that were visiting or lived there and had a place to go who did not live in the areas that were being blockaded were likely mostly gone from the area, so the people left would have been local residents who were blockaded as well as those who had nowhere to go... so I will put my guess in at 85-95%

I also agree with her that local residents should create educational outreach and work together to help minimize the impact of the event.

Of course this is the part I agree with most, about not relying on police authority:

"I also feel that the extreme measures taken against students by officials was also over the top.

To be blocked off from my own home and forced to walk into a crowd of tear gas and rubber bullets left me feeling as though the campus police my tuition employs, and the officers brought in from neighboring counties, did not have my best interests at heart.

Instead of telling all students to go home, officers I encountered put up barricades and refused to discuss anything with students."

One more thing - the media should stop hyping this event so much, I would be willing to bet the advertisements of deltopia from the major media outlets really encourage a lot of the non-invited guests from out of town.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's a great story in the Noozhawk. It's true that many of the troublemakers are from out of town. Most students such as the one in the article appreciate the police presence and understand they are there to protect people, not to harass them. Most know that without the police presence, the prospect for catastrophe is much much higher.

Botany (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UCSB mulling expulsion for students proven to have broken student regs i.e. assaulted police officers? Interesting, this might be in line with the student handbook... I've seen this at other universities...

Josh (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Andrewbaker77 said it well.

These aren't like those in the '60's protesting against a racist/sexist/classist system, but a bunch of spoiled violent brats who among other things, sent an officer to the hospital with a head injury. They are the leaders of tomorrow, God help us.

Money does not always =class, as these people have shown. The paradox is that the authorities who run the Big Picture locally are themselves owned by the alcohol industry, so in some ways, the chickens are coming home to roost.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken_Volok brings up a good point about it being out-of-towners who are the problem. Something tells me that if this were let's say...Texas, Indiana, or some other place with a heavily armed populace, the cops' jobs would be much easier.

My sister lived in I.V. during the 70's and tells me this stuff never went on. Sure, people drank, smoked a LOT of pot, and ran around naked, but the violence was nowhere near what it is today.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loonpt, I shudder to think what IV would be like if there was no police presence there at all, a position you seem to be advocating. It takes rioters to make a riot. Speaking from personal experience I know the police would prefer it if there was no rioting.

LegendaryYeti (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loonpt,

Your an idiot. Enough said...

Priceless (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@andrewbaker77

"In poor countries, people riot for human rights.
In rich countries, people riot for self-entitlement."

Right, that Rwandan mob who hacked 800,000 people to death with machetes must have felt such a huge triumph in their struggle for civil rights.

Way to oversimplify things, dude. People riot because they are wild animals who happen to have t-shirts and camera phones. It is akin to a stampede of wild beasts. Once the mob mentality takes over, human beings become dangerous, wild animals.

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm so sick and tired of the it was, "Out of towers" BS.

You idiots wouldn't know facts from fiction if it hit you in the balls or Vajj.

First,

Flotopia was started by who, Iv'ers

Second,

It was Iv'ers who welcomed these "out of towers" onto their porches, patio's and yards for the days festivities.

Unless you are a complete idiot, which I suggest many who wrote on here are might want to look in the mirror and ask one question. WHO WERE THE DRUNK, OUT OF CONTROL JUVENILE DELINQUENTS WHO THOUGHT THROWING ROCKS, BOTTLES AND BRINKS, STARTED ROLLING DUMPSTERS INTO VEHICLES, STARTED FIRES REFUSED TO LEAVE THE AREA AFTER A LAWFUL ORDER WAS TO BLAME?

If you answered the question with, "The cops" you might be an idiot…..

Priceless (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Priceless

Your gift for irony was clear when you wrote:

"Your an idiot"

RobEgenolf (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@howgreenwasmyvalley--great, your yuppie goddaughter wastes her time in South America instead of partying. I bet she does it so she can brag about how much of a humanitarian she is (gag!). Please spare us your self-righteous non-argument.

She is not making any real difference in the world. She might help a few sick kids here and there, but who gives a crap?

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Crossgrunt: I do.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Cross*04*grunt".

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Those who give a crap are those who aren't full of it. When you don't have a bowel movement, you are full of...you know...

As for Loonpit, he is not an idiot, he is brain damaged. He was at an I.V. Deltopian binge two years ago when he got so drunk that he thought he was having relations with a co-ed, only to discover when he woke up from his binge that he had experienced carnal knowledge of a goat. Upon realizing this, he became so embarrassed and horrified that he started jumping up and down screaming "I just made love to a goat!" When he did this, he entered into a bathroom with a low ceiling, hitting his head several times as he jumped, resulting in the condition he has today.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@loonpt

Police are not going to discuss anything with you. By the time you tried asking them whatever question you felt entitled to ask, they had already been verbally assaulted by a bunch of spoiled, 21-year-old, white kids. They do not answer to you, even if YOUR PARENTS pay the institution that employs them. You sound so self-entitled when you speak, bro.

And in situations where everyone is intoxicated, police will only arrest those who are belligerent. I have been to enough events like this around the world to know that if you act a fool, you're gonna get locked up, for your own good and for the good of everyone else. If you keep a cool head and act like an adult, you will be fine.

When riots break out, the police can and should use non-lethal force. They are not there to answer your stupid questions or discuss anything with you but to make sure that the crowd of mindless animals doesn't hurt anyone or damage property (that's what people in a mob essentially are--mindless animals). Police are there to react to the level of threat posed by the crowd. Any time you have a large group of people with alcohol and other drugs, there will be a threat of violence and a need for law enforcement, and when the crowd starts to assault the police, there will be an escalation of force.

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I lived in IV in 1974 and we never even locked our door...didn't have to. In fact, shortly after I moved in, I lost the key and never got another one. I went out at any hour of the day or night, I walked everywhere, and never had any trouble from locals. On the rare occasions there were problems, they were caused by spoiled rich brat out of towner students with a terminal case of self-entitlement. The locals all knew each other and didn't cause grief for one another.

I wouldn't want to even drive BY IV now, let alone go there. It's become a giant toilet, filled to the rim with alcohol and UCSB brats and their out of town buddies, that needs to be flushed.

How incredibly sad for the real residents who have to live with that crap.

Holly (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Flushed with lots of Tidy Bowl.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody know what color these drunken brats were, and it is irrelevant. Drunken jerks come in all colors. Rich punks come in all colors.

It's not just white kids who drink and act like idiots. Let's not make this about color. It's about alcohol and uncivilized behavior, period.

This was not a party, and it wasn't a protest. I have been involved in plenty of both in my nearly 6 decades of living.

This was a mindless, booze-fueled riot.

And every one of these punks should be jailed and if they are students expelled. EXPELLED, not suspended.

Holly (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Humans are foolish in all colors.

As the the late Hank Sarria (who died of Aspergers Syndrome--the same illness that killed his father) called it: "Douchtopia".

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK, here's my idea: I'm calling out U.C.S.B. Chancellor Henry Yang to demand the expulsion of anybody found guilty of physical assault during these riots.

The question is, will Yang side with those who were assaulted, or see the loss of $$$ and keep the thugs on his campus?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Priceless, it was indeed mostly out of towners. Don't become an ideologue.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@billclausen--Congratulations. I, on the other hand, do not appreciate people who participate in "humanitarian" activities, only to then brag about how great they are while telling everyone else that we are a bunch of chronic "time wasters."

So if someone wants to act like she really gives a damn about humanity, that's her business, but please, enough with the smugness. Do it because you actually have some compassion, not for recognition or your own self-interest.

If I had the opportunity to go to medical school, I would do so in a heartbeat. The reality is that I don't have rich parents with connections, so that is not a reality for me, and I would appreciate it if people wouldn't rub it in my face.

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've yet to hear or read one actual IV resident of any age, economic class etc. excuse or champion Deltopia and last night's riot. Unaminously they condemn the out of towners and hooligans.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Leetle Deltopiers,

Envious of the 60’s much?

So all the local right leaning wing-nuts have their panties all in a bunch and oh wow man you guys made into the LATimes. What else ya got? Comon bring it on you bunch of pansies.

vivtopia (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's the epidemic of autism reaching adulthood. The same reason they had to add 1 to the GPA scale, and indirectly related to the 100 billion dollars printed monthly to make the economy appear to be growing.

It explains why Obama is picking a fight with Russia. The great depression was solved by WWII.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@native2sb--Haha, I bet you read all about this from ONE website, and now you think you're an expert. They added 1 to the GPA scale due to increased competition, and only the best students qualify for it--you have to take college-level classes while in HS. There is no 5.0 scale at the college level.

And what does the economy have to do with autism? You lost me there, but I suspect you're full of **** anyways, so I will expect a comical response.

There is a huge difference between the pre-WW2 era and today, mainly because we already have an existing military industry in this country. A large war would not stimulate our economy (see Iraq/Afghanistan, which made the economy worse). The US will not go to war with Russia.

See? You really know NOTHING about what you're talking about! Please, please, please, please, please....Stop voicing your opinion!!!!!

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Any UCSB students arrested during this should be expelled from the university and all UC campuses. If there were any students from any California university they should be expelled. This has to end, I do not want this campus and community dragging us through the mud anymore! These brats with too much money get sent here by mommy and daddy so they can party all they want. ENOUGH!!!! My mother is a nurse at one of the local hospitals and they were filled with drunk college kids in the ER by 8pm both nights! What happens when someone who really NEEDS medical attention doesn't get it because of drunk rich brats!?

jenjen00 (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k...

It should be noted that a significantly large percentage of students living in Isla Vista go to SBCC.

It should also be noted, for some, that the economy recovered at the end of WWII, not the beginning. And I haven't even started voicing my opinion.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It was a huge cluster from the onset. Actually, the first year they shut down the beach wasn't as crazy. Minimal arrests and the beach was actually clean as opposed to the grotesque mess left the year before ending up on beaching miles down coast. Now, they are all invited to come to this disaster of an event. Neither Board of Sups reps for this area Failure Farr and Woeful Wolf were proactive in dealing with this mess, that has gotten worse with each passing year. They share some of this blame with the idiots that dont know how to behave and just have fun without acting like idiots.

BeachFan (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are several comments here that are very true. Like it's true that the majority of those actually arrested were from out of the area, and were spoiled little cry babies demanding to call their mommys and daddys. Just like halloween for many years.

Another truth here is that loonpt is an idiot. A perfect example of where ideology over rules logic and the real world. "Just let them party and all will be fine". That's actually what was taking place when a officer was seriously injured and the mob mentality set in as law enforcement had no choice but to change enforcement modes. Watching the dumba$$es posted videos proves that.

Here's the most important factor of why enforcement is justified: the citizens that actually own the Isla Vista properties (and pay property taxes) didn't want all that crap taking place to begin with. Their voices influence laws and ordinances and fund services like public safety, so I could care less what a bunch of entitled retards think they're entitled to under the influence of alcohol.

I'm in full support of the colleges expelling students for their participation in events like we saw last night. No refunds, no appeals, no exceptions. When that realization happens to a student after getting busted its actually quite humorous.

On a happy note... Even with 6 LE officers being injured (according to a press release) they acted professionally and regained control without a single fatality. With some of those idiots trying to kill cops that's restraint. Good job!!

Validated (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From our perspective, this seems to have been a classic police riot caused by the cops attempting to have "total control" over 15,000 boisterous college students out to have a good time, in the naive belief that they live in a "free country"!
The cops & local scarecrows make a big deal about the "violence" at the 2013 Deltopia: the Independent reported that there were "more than 15,000" partiers last year - and the complete lack of civilized behavior by the students resulted in "23 arrests, 71 citations and... 44" hospitalized (and one unfortunate death from an apparent fall from cliffs at the beach). So let's do a bit of arithmetic. If the crowd numbered 15,100 people and the number of "arrests, citations and hospital admittees" comes to 138 cases, the result is a miscreant ratio of... 0.009139073% ! Declare Martial Law! Call out the National Guard! Dig moats around your homes!
So, of course, after "what the town went through in 2013" this year, the police had to be prepared for "all hell to break loose again". Instead of allowing the students to party at the beach where it's relatively safe and where there is plenty of room, the cops decide to control the masses by keeping them on the streets, where the cops can attack with impunity. The cops and university set up cameras to video all the expected violence - and then provided the violence themselves. Who do the University big shots think they are to be imposing police-state repression on an off-campus student community?
One cop-friendly student said: “Despite the frustrations I feel towards out-of-towners [and] the few residents that chose to act without [...] dignity [...] the extreme measures taken against students by officials was also over the top. To be blocked off from my own home and forced to walk into a crowd of tear gas and rubber bullets left me feeling as though the campus police [...] and the officers brought in from [out of town], did not have my best interests at heart. Instead of telling all students to go home, officers [...] put up barricades and refused to discuss anything with students.”
[Source: Noozhawk, 6 April 2014]
Once again, the forces of “law and order” have "succeeded" in creating complete disorder in a situation where rational planning would have resulted in a much more civilized outcome. The students responded to the police violence with defensive violence? Good for them! Some people don't take too well to being attacked by cops for no reason!
This year, the cops escalated the violence to the point of firing "non-lethal" rounds at the students! What will they do NEXT year? Will they be "judge, jury and executioner" in an effort to "teach the students who's in charge"? The cops had better be made to back off before they commit an atrocity like Kent State!
Drop all the charges against the students! No reprisals by the University! Down with the US police state!

Workers of the World, Unite!
Independent Workers Party of Chicago

IWPCHI (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Many of the rioters will probably be identified from the surveillance footage. I wonder if SBCC can even expel students, given that there are no standards for admission. UCSB certainly can.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Validated is 100% correct.

The LE Officer who had his scalp ripped open by the backpack was responding to a call for assistance to help a stabbing victim.

Other LE officers who were injured were also responding to break up fights between civilians, trying to prevent them from killing each other and keep the peace. That's in the job description of Police Officer. People like LOON truly have no clue. And no respect for those who deserve the highest levels of it.

What LOON et al fail to recognize is that when you demand your rights, you must also accept your responsibilities. The students who rent these properties do not have carte blanche from the County of Santa Barbara to throw massive parties of this magnitude without following the same laws the rest of the County must abide by.

If you are going to have a concert in an outdoor venue with this type of attendance, there are regulations to abide by concerning public safety, sanitation, sound, safety, fencing, etc. But no one will step up to accept responsibility to host or pay for this kind of infrastructure for Deltopia/Floatopia and actually properly put this event together. Because that would involve a cost and rules and responsibility. For those who just want to party without limit and let others pick up after them, there will always be conflict between law and order and mature human beings. These people demand the rights they feel unconditionally entitled to, without accepting the accompanying responsibilities. Perpetual infancy.

Further evidence that we are dealing with infants comes from the continual finger pointing at the Police as the "bad guys" that take away the toys and spoil the fun. To those painting yourselves as victims and the police as being responsible for ALL of your out of control behavior, rioting, stabbing, fighting, vandalism, sexual assaults, alcoholic stupor, or violence that permeated yesterday, none of us are drinking your Kool Aid. We see a generation of entitled brats who need to grow up.

KCandle (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@IWPCHI... That was such a great first post here on the Indy. Are you really a communist, or just mad at daddy because he wouldn't let you go out last night? What's your next statement... "Down with the imperialist pig that makes me take out the trash!'

Idiots of the World, Unite! At deltopia next year for another butt kicking.

Validated (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gang injunction for Isla Vista

ahem (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe it can be like an annual running of the bulls.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@KCandle--Right on. I could not have said that any better myself.

@IWPCHI--Your percentage was off by two orders of magnitude. The actual figure is .92%, which means nearly 1 percent of the people at the venue got into some kind of trouble (that is the figure of those who got caught). That is enough for law enforcement and medical personnel to have a presence, and when those officers start getting assaulted, escalation of force is required. Sorry that life isn't one big party, but society can't allow a bunch drunk burnouts to invade entire cities, essentially turning them into giant nightclubs. I am all for partying and having a good time, but there is a time and a place. If the residents don't want you there, it's time to kick rocks, bro. Funny how you compare preventing a bunch of belligerent 20-year-olds from rioting to Nazi Germany.

@Validated--That last post was hilarious!

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 11:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is embarrassing that a supposed civilized country has people who have no need at all to cause a rumpus, do so on public property without any consideration for the property owners or other residents of that area. What a bad example, especially given that there are people living in the most appalling conditions under the most dire Nazi-like dictators (e.g. Assad) where their only recourse is to protest. Perspective. The IV gripes are first-world, spoiled brat gripes, for people living in one of the freest countries in the world. Just stop and count your blessings, and demonstrate to others who are not so lucky that you appreciate what you have in comparison to godawful lives that they live. Or maybe go help them protest for something worthwhile.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
April 6, 2014 at 11:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Originally, Deltopia took place on the beach, where the only thing that could get damaged was the ocean & the sand. But that was not good enough for the cops. They and the "law & order" cretins in "Isla Vista" had to shut down that party & move everything into the town proper, where if a disturbance took place, there'd be the potential for a lot of property damage. Stupid idea! According to press reports, the biggest complaint at "Floatopia" was the amount of trash left on the beach and "human waste" disposal - big deal! Let the Isla Vista shell out some money for the porta-potties necessary to handle a crowd of 15k & hire sanitation workers instead of cowboy cops!
The press report that the incident that kicked off the cop riot was when a cop was "hit in the head with a backpack stuffed with alcohol bottles"! What a fairy tale! Then they were investigating a report of a stabbing - where is the victim? The cops made all this up to justify their rampage against the students. The cops are cowards who enjoy beating on - and shooting - unarmed people - it's happening all over the US.
Of course the "property-owning" thieves in Isla Vista would prefer to have a bunch of docile student sheep living in their town who would just quietly get sheared by the town landlords and thieving petty capitalists every school year; but you can't have a "profitable" student ghetto & peace & quiet at the same time. If you don't like living in a student ghetto town that hosts a huge spring break party every year - MOVE OUT! And don't let the door hit you in the ass!
Police brutality is rampant in the US and will continue to escalate until the working class finally wakes up and puts an end to this brutal capitalist system. Until then, we'll continue to see cops increasingly becoming comfortable with the idea of provoking law-abiding citizens into revolt and then opening up on them with automatic weapons. Someone with intelligence had better figure out a way to let the adult students in Isla Vista have their fun before those cops commit an atrocity that will leave the whole world in shock. This year the cops opened fire with "non-lethal weapons" - what's next?
We're sick of the burgeoning US police state and its apologists. We stand on the side of the students, more than 99% of whom have not been engaging in criminal acts at these parties yet who were treated like "the enemy" by the occupying army of cops. As usual in these cases, we bet that more than half the charges against the students will be dropped the minute they get to court & are shown to be baseless. Either this is going to be a "free country" run by the citizens or it's going to be a fascist police state - and we know which version of the future WE want to bring to this country. Down with the US police state! Drop all the charges against the students! Oppose all reprisals by the University administration!

Workers of the World, Unite!

Independent Workers Party of Chicago

IWPCHI (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 12:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IWPCHI: I'm no fan of the cops--I've been harassed by enough of them in my time--but in this case the "protesters" were at fault. Even though I am wary of cops, I don't let my ideology get in the way of facts.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@native2sb, don't act like a Deltard. I don't like you making jokes about autistic people. I pointed out that my frend Hank Sarria died of Aspergers three years ago. Autism is a horrible disease, and you shouldnt joke about it. Shame on you!

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IWPCHI: Isn't it ironic that Communist organizations ultimately seek to destroy capitalism by the use of police?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Deltard" now that's funny.
It's also funny that the UC president is the former secretary of homeland security, the same folks that spent a million dollars to outfit the SBPD with serious hardware.
Chicago has some points, but the approach is all wrong. Rioting will only validate the police. And it's not capitalism we're dealing with, it's cronyism.
Good luck with communism though, maybe Putin will come to the rescue.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 2:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Kcandle: Excellent post.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken, never said it was "ALL" Locals. But it certainly wasn't "ALL" out of towners either.

There were many locals in the crowd of misfits that night. There was an estimated 15,000 people at this drunkfest. Most of which were locals. They may have not been students at either UCSB, or SBCC but they were locals.

So to blame this act of cowardliness (Rioting) because that's what it was not "Protesting" on "Out of towners" is ridicules.

The idiots on this thread that blame law enforcement are just idiots. They wouldn't know facts if it hit them in the face. If law enforcement wanted to shut down the drunkfest they would done it early in the day. Not wait until one of their own gets bottles to the face trying help one of the drunks who was stabbed.

You want to blame someone? Blame UCSB Administrators who failed in their duties when one of their own committed a crime in the "Free speech" area and blamed the individuals who had the right to be their in the first place. Nobody has ever said you have to like what someone else is saying, but YOU have no right to infringe on their rights to Free Speech.

What UCSB has done is teach their students that committing a crime is ok if you don't agree with what is going on. Case in point RIOT ON THE STREETS OF IV. SCREAM AND YELL PROFANITIES AT LAW ENFORCEMENT, THROW ROCKS, BOTTLES, BRICKS, VANDALIZE OTHER STUDENTS PROPERTY, VANDALIZE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY AND SHOW THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT DRUNK JUVENILES HAVE NO SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY.

And for ALL those who still don't get it. Just go to YouTube type in Deltopia 2014 and witness this act of cowardliness by these drunk jackasses. They were all tough when they were yelling and screaming but ran like crying babies when law enforcement moved forward. These are tomorrows leaders, can't wait…..

Priceless (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NEWSFLASH ... New graduation requirement for all UCSB majors... "THE DANGERS OF DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE - 101". I hope the entire UCSB community realizes the severe damage they are doing to the future value of their degrees... They are trashing the reputation of UCSB, and hence themselves every weekend this nonsense is allowed to continue. As people look at national media film clips of Del Playa, it looks more like clips of Lake Havasu or other spring break toilets... At least Havasu doesn't have the violence. Why the violence?? The entire UCSB/ Santa Barbara community needs to come together to stop this madness ASAP.

BondJamesBond (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IWPCHI continues to imaze with his incredible lack of knowledge and moronic ramblings. He talks about "Let Isla Vista shell out money for port a potties and sanitation" Maybe he should let the bong cool. IV is an unincorporated area of the County. There fore, there is no IV to "charge". It's on the County's dime, i.e. OUR DIME. For a guy that rambles on like the Unibombers manifesto, he sure have very little knowledgeable information to add. Here is an idea......if they want a party, add it to their fees for tuition. After all, it seems to be the students that invite these "out of towners" who cause trouble. I highly doubt it's the non-student residents of IV that are inviting this crowd.

BeachFan (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you, Validated - you REALLY put it together well.

islandm (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IWPCHI, why should the workers pay for the decadence of alcoholics?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Truth by KCandle:

"If you are going to have a concert in an outdoor venue with this type of attendance, there are regulations to abide by concerning public safety, sanitation, sound, safety, fencing, etc. But no one will step up to accept responsibility to host or pay for this kind of infrastructure for Deltopia/Floatopia and actually properly put this event together. Because that would involve a cost and rules and responsibility. For those who just want to party without limit and let others pick up after them, there will always be conflict between law and order and mature human beings. These people demand the rights they feel unconditionally entitled to, without accepting the accompanying responsibilities. Perpetual infancy."

islandm (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@IWPCHI
You sound like an extremist. All the "revolutionaries" who sound like you throughout history end up leading the worst governments and committing the worst atrocities, because the world is not as simple as you make it out to be. "Santa Barbara, the Capital-fascist Police State!" What a joke; go live in a real police state or a real dictatorship, then I'll laugh when they throw you in prison for 30 years for crimes against the state, simply for voicing your opinion.
There are laws for a reason, and allowing large crowds of people to party whenever and wherever they want (forcing the evil, capitalist swine to clean up your pollution) does not constitute a democracy, especially when the partiers are a bunch of drunk buffoons. By the way, why don't you shell out the money to pay for the damage to the beach? Oh, wait, that's just as much your beach to trash as it is the property owners, because "capitalism is soooo evil," right? That's the typical remark from a bum, dude. I love how you enjoy all the amenities of a capitalist society, yet bash it because you took some online philosophy class while hitting your bong on a daily basis. Welcome to the real world, where those who put forth some effort and intellect actually get ahead in life. Those who want a free reign to party...well...have fun panhandling.

I also like your argument that just because the police used non-lethal force this year that next year they'll somehow reenact Tiananmen Square. You're an idiot, man. I hope you're trolling, because it sucks that we have burnouts like you living in our society. The same people who took a philosophy class in college, so now feel like they have all the answers in life and can wander around doing whatever they want without any consequences. Please, engage the police with automatic firearms, like you said. We'll miss you next year while they're planning your funeral.

cross04grunt (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I also feel compelled to share my two cents with the students and all others who come to Isla Vista to “just have a good time,” disregarding illegal, emotional and physical damages to our community. The ultimate responsibility rests on those who live in the community; you need not blame out-of-towners. If you didn’t allow for this, this most recent incident would not have made national news.

Do you know that you are occupying emergency room beds, possibly at the expense of others who need them? Do you realize that your actions are requiring emergency responders, peace officers and fire fighters and paramedics, to put themselves in danger in order to put a stop to the chaos? Do you understand that these persons do so by leaving their families at home – leaving partners who worry and kids who don’t understand why and are just devastated that their parent isn’t there? Do you realize how much money you are costing the community government and the hospitals and the landlords and the University to pay for the multiple personnel who have had to attend to, pick up the pieces of, your drunk and disorderly behavior? Do you know that there are families, including frail elderly and children, living in your neighborhood, who deserve peace and quiet, but are instead traumatized by the riot and aftermath?

Do you realize you are squandering an education entitlement for which generations of American families have sacrificed, AND CONTINUE TO SACRIFICE, their lives?

I am deeply concerned by the actions of you who were involved in this incident, fear the impact of your apathy and/or ignorance, as YOU will eventually become our future leaders. DO YOU KNOW YOU’RE BETTER THAN THAT?

Thus far, efforts to shut down the destructive party culture that permeates Isla Vista and tarnishes the reputation the school, have been circumvented. Do you realize that the underlying message of this is that YOU are not worth the effort to invest in YOU, your character, your education, your gifts. It would be tragic if you continue to buy in to this philosophy, because YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN THAT.

YOU are the future of America. YOU can have a great time, not at the expense of others, or yourself, for that matter. YOU’RE WORTH IT.

mcnultytx (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Looking back on the years I lived in IV, especially as a 3rd year on DP, I remember a lot of Halloweens. After I graduated, moved a little inland to the 6500 block of Picasso Rd and there I stayed until I could afford a mortgage.

The big parties have always drawn large numbers from out-of-town. Some students, some not. It used to be Playboy's list would get the word out. Now it's Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Not being a sociologist, I would wager the "Las Vegas" syndrome (what happens in Vegas ...) was a big factor in this year's Deltopia. That's something many of us can probably relate to or at least understand.

I'm not trying to apportion blame to specific groups. And I doubt anyone here has the cred to do so. But I do appreciate Robert Bernstein's attempt to figure who was at Deltopia this year:

http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?...

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So much speculation here...

I have to say that I agree with LoonPT . This was a case of the cops showing up armed and ready for a fight. You take 21yr olds, fill them with booze and nothing to do and then show up with riot gear and weapons designed to kill and you will have a fight... every single time.

Kids will always party. Trying to force them to bend to your authoritative will is asinine. The fact that Martial Law is being called for by some of you is crazy. Insane and crazy.

So tell me wise commentators:

How did this impact any of you? How did this party affect you or your life? What exactly is the threat that makes you think we need to forgo the rights and freedoms of all in order to restrict peaceful activities by the public?

The fact that there was no violence until the police showed up and started a fight is the real issue. While the rest of you can go one and on about your hate for students, for the school, for alcohol and for all sorts of bizarre associations, the reality is that college kids have and will always party... The over reaction by our over armed police force is and will continue to be the instigator of violence.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What isn't speculation is that BEFORE the police showed several people had been stabbed. Might want to get your facts right first Sam. The responding emergency personnel were then attacked.
And again, notrice how no actual IV residents are jumping in to defend the rioters.
So tell us wise Sam, when can we come over and trash your home?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Youtube of the battle line on DP between partiers & LE (on the UCSB Daily Nexus site) is atrocious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJGOXY...

I hope the surveillance cameras and other evidence permit ID of all the partiers who were dragging trash receptacles into the street, and who hurled bottles and other trash at LE, and subsquent successful prosecution.

But by no means should due process, either in the County Courts of the UCSB committees, be circumvented.

Likewise for all who attacked LE, in the incident that set off the riot, and other incidents.

UCSB students organize plenty of events that don't turn into riots... the yearly Extravaganza comes to mind. Paid for, insured, regulated, no problem. But on campus. In IV, Chlla Vista did fine for years.

Large, uncontrolled parties in the streets of IV have a principal attraction,
which you can see in the pictures of Deltopia here:

http://www.swt.org/uni/2014-0405/

Men who fail to find a partner drink and are frustrated and the vent their unrequited emotions. Putting young men into social situations that are structured has, for 1000's of years, been proven to quench the rage.

Simple Halloween costumes help a lot; the rage during IV Halloween hasn't gotten out of hand for years (it did in the early 1960's and the 1980's).

Years ago the homecoming parades down State Street, football games, the Spring Sing, proms, etc, all helped civilized the rage. But the rage still surfaced, in the Barbary Coast on the UCSB Campus in the 1950's, Halloween riots in the very early 1960's, and of course the 2 bank burnings in 1970.

UCSB lost much of the structure in the troubles of the late 1960's, at the same time the totally unstructured environment of IV grew without check.

Lots of profit is generated in IV... to landlords, to the County, to UCSB (who did not have to build on-campus housing). Little of that profit gets reinvested in a manner so as to quench the young men's rage. LE is the last thin blue line, and it is terribly destructive if circumstances lead to the necessity.

Sadly, no reinvestment will ever be made. The Trow Commission of 1970 or so called in the strongest terms for more reinvestment. Didn't happen, and the need was much more obvious and stronger then.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The number one "drug" involved here is alcohol. What most of the news people refer to as "drugs" are not the problem here.

Because alcohol is legal, the fact that it's a dangerous potent drug is being sidestepped. Newspeople.... get it right. You've been confusing the drugs issue for 50 years.

Does anyone really think the police improved the situation?
Police are legal but they are upholding weak moral standards. Unfortunately most of them have been listening to tainted reality news reports their whole lives and think what they do is glorious.

Maybe without the loud music regulation. They wouldn't be justified about being in peoples faces. It seems there just can't be a riot without the police. That must be why we need so many of them.

So newspeople, let's clear up the facts across the board to what they really are and perhaps youth will have better minds.... and maybe police would have a better perspective and an easier time

jazzifier (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bravo Pardall

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sure Ken, sure... So tell me: How did this party effect you? Are you just tying to be the Daddy for the whole world and make sure they're all safe and cared for?

That is what is so bad about the reaction here... Why do you people feel the need to control what everyone else does? That is the heart of this event and the reason that it escalated into a "riot"... it was the authorities who caused the entire problem...

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So Sam when can me and all my IV friends were negatively impacted by your douchtopia pals come over and trash your house?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And Sam, you conveniently forget the fact that the first LE attacked were responding to TWO stabbing victims.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No Ken, if you choose to live in a place like IV, you accept the responsibility and potential. What kind of idiot lives in that little college ghetto anyway? If you live in the ghetto, you shouldnt be surprised by crime.

I am waiting for you to answer what exactly about this even affected you and your life? From my perspective, you're just trying to control what you do not understand or what you cannot handle...

You act as if college kids just started partying like this or that this is the first time a major party happens on DP or in IV. get off your high horse old man. Its pathetic that you think YOU are the authority here or that your ideals are more important than the underlying freedom from oppression that this type of police response mimics.

I havent conveniently forgotten anything. You have forgotten that you are not in power nor are you as a single, aging old man, a consideration.

Ask yourself why this type of party happens in college towns everywhere but its only here that its resulted in a riot. Is that the kids or the police? Honestly ask yourself that question for the answer is very, very important.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As Looper mentioned, did Bill Brown of the S.B.S.O. really send the day shift home at 9:30 pm to avoid overtime?

Where was he during all of this? Was he even in town because know he likes to travel frequently?

I also read one chopper had a serious fuel problem and needed to refill. Why aren't there contingencies for emergencies like this? Yes, I know SBA was "officially" closed at the time, after 11:30 pm, BUT what the hey! This seems like a complete lack of emergency planning on the part of - yes - our S.B.S.O. Gads!

I certainly hope the City leaders & more importantly, the Board of Supervisors, call Bill B. on the carpet to answer to all these concerns.

When this happens the next time, and yes, there will be another incident somewhere in this fair city, the S.B.S.O. better be ready & not standing behind their vehicles for hours watching the punks ruin the place.

Barron (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's the actions of people such as you defend Sam that make IV a ghetto. Your comments reveal more about shallow sensibilities that make apparently help you connect with the the Deltards whom you taken to your desperate to be relevant heart.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In addition Sam, as for my being a "single aging old man", I've had twenty years ofa singluar love and happiness I doubt you'll ever be lucky enough to have twenty minutes of.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It takes institutionalized idiocy - as witnessed by Deltopia - for the general public to accept a zero tolerance policy, or a suspension of liberties. With liberty comes responsibility...its a fact of life on earth.

To all those drunken idiots bleating about "police brutality", get a life. You haven't a clue what its like to live under the heavy manners of authoritarianism, or a police state - but your collective imbecilic conduct and boorish stupidity might just precipitate - and "justify" it.

Party on.

bloggulator (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken, oh Ken...

Why dont you enlighten us as to how this party impacted you personally? What is it that makes you feel the need to control what college kids do? What is lacking in that sad life of yours that makes you think its your duty to create and enforce the moral code?

IV is a ghetto because its a college town... every town where 20k+ college kids live is a ghetto of sorts. Have you ever been to another college town? Probably not...

If you actually live in IV then you're an idiot and one of those creepy old guys who likes to perv out on the young hotties... how does that old wife of yours feel about you jerking off to the 20yr olds in their bikinis? Or does she do the same?

Your last comment is just bizarre. No wonder you think you need to parent everyone... you actually think that you're special! You are indeed a misguided old man...

But please, before you go off on some tangent tell us how this impacted you and the rest of the fine folks of Santa Barbara. Please, tell us how some kids partying impacts you! We're dying to know.

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh Sam, what a disappointing lil whiny mama dog you've turned out to be.
Nobody wants to be responsible (i.e. "control") what college kids are doing, but when it impacts other people, that is a line crossed.
You are indeed a misguided, nonlocal old troll.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Loony always & again on the defense of scum.
Sammy)_tab, gotta agree, yeah, IV's a ghetto, but maybe unlike Ken, I have been to other college towns across the country & you wanna know what? Sure, they may be ghettos, but IV is the only ghetto where the inmates run the asylum. Self-entitled, spoiled little children who don't understand the word "no" or don't like to be told "no, you can't do that."
By the way, ghetto technically defined means a place of gathering of a certain demographic, so ghettos are everywhere.
You more than likely DON'T live in IV, you probably (more than likely) NEVER lived in IV, your opinion on IV is therefore useless.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So Ken, in addition to being an insipid, moronic, a hole, you're still not answering the very simple questions.

** Why does a party in IV matter to you?

** Why is what these people do important for you to control?

** And why do we not see riots across the country as college kids party like this every weekend?

Wow Blah put together a few sentences without cut n paste! I'm almost impressed...

I dont live in IV I am 45 years old. If you are over 25 and live there you're a moron... or a perv like Ken.

I guess you've never been to Athens, Lawrence, Austin, Madison, Eugene, Chico, Oxford, Burlington, Columbia and countless other college towns...

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The problem will only get worse as UCSB expands and expands like a malignant tumor. Other than a police state, which we are to some extent already in, not a whole lot can be done. Raging hormones always trump common sense. When I was that age 50 years ago I didn't have much sense and I still really don't.

Noletaman (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sorry Sam it seems you exemplify the trash that the IV community is looking to sweep out.
As for your age reqs as to who can live in IV, many faculty and other professionals, retired people and families all make their homes in IV without the prurient motivations that apparently inflict you.
Yes you may be 45, but your pathetic pandering to teenagers illustrates your maturity level. But it's everybody else that's the perv.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loonpt, I agree with you on the noise ordinance issue. It was short-sighted, arbitrary and counterproductive; a "let's ban music just because we can" kind of policy/attitude.

However, as regards the "incitement to riot" issue: Much street violence in recent years have been instigated by authorities, in which otherwise peaceful demonstrations are hijacked by fake "demonstrators", often wearing black clothing and face-masks in order to be (a) anonymous and (b) look like so-called "anarchists" or "Black block" political activists. These are stooges, paid by police departments (at the bequest of higher authority) to start trouble, usually on cue when the mainstream media cameras are rolling. A classic example was Seattle in 1999 where "Crisis Actors" were "arrested" for lobbing bottles and rocks through the windows of downtown business, exactly where the corporate media reporters and cameramen were staked out, to be duly "arrested". The "arrestees" were seen trooping out of rear exits of the downtown Seattle police station waving fistfuls of dollars, laughing and even talking about their exploits on video!

This type of "directed violence" is motivated by the desire of elements within the establishment to portray their political foes as "violent", "vandals" and having no sense of responsibility - and thus tarnishing the cause for which they are portrayed to support. This kind of action is a variation of the "false-flag" attack, where rogue elements within government attack on their own nation, thus rallying public support for war or other actions which would otherwise be unpopular or unsellable.

In contrast to political protest, the Deltopia fiasco was causeless, motiveless, random violence fueled by the usual Del Playa combo of alcohol and stupidity. Similar displays of wanton hooliganism and idiocy often happen after large spectator sports events - in these types of incident, the cops have no motivation to start, or inflate trouble, in which no political causes are being demonstrated, no injustice being protested. In I.V. we witnessed a bunch of out-of-control, unaware, affluenza-infected brats with a hyper-inflated sense of entitlement and a distorted sense of what "liberty" means.

bloggulator (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To those bitching about cost to the county: Don't act like students don't provide a significant tax base for the county.

To those bitching about the havoc: Don't act like you've been to I.V., like, EVER. It doesn't affect you.

To those bitching about out-of-towners: You clearly don't understand the nature of I.V.

To those bitching about property damage: Have you seen the rents and deposits that these students pay??

To those bitching about disrespect for authority: Authority earns their own disrespect.

I grew up in Isla Vista. Lived there through all the Halloweens and the wet blankets authorities have tried to throw over the whatever the current annual I.V. party happens to be. Next time, cast your dragnet around the town and catch the DUI's spilling out, but leave the rest alone and, amazingly, the citation statistics will drop, alcohol poisoning cases will remain unchanged, and once in a while some idiot will fall off the bluffs. It happens. Get over it.

3domfighter (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about those bitching about getting stabbed or having their cars destroyed?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's an idea to cut down on the douchebags in IV:

SBCC could stop importing students from out of town. A large percentage of IV residents are SBCC students. These people are here only to party. If you don't get into college you should go to your home town CC. If you simply must come to SB to attend CC then you should live near it. If you come to live in IV and attend SBCC, then you are on a very expensive party vacation that your parents pay for to get you out of the house. Reducing this population might put a dent in the problem. It would have to be addressed through SBCC admissions.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SBCC students themselves aren't the problem tho they tend to be younger and less mature.
One cause for the influx into IV this weekend were the out of town DJs who invited all of their friends/fans to a free party, resulting in a bunch of drunks with nowhere to go.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

C'mon Ken--it's IV. My family's cars were routinely walked over by drunk students on an avg Friday in 1995, and stabbings have been a sad reality all over Santa Barbara, including at the iconic dolphin statue. If you want to talk about the ongoing social ills of IV, cool, but those have no direct correlation to this event.

3domfighter (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SBCC has a website advertising IV housing:
http://www.sbcc.edu/housing/listings.php
It's a party vacation industry.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken you make absolutely no sense and your continued avoidance of a few very simple questions makes you a evasive moron...

What's wrong, you cant answer the questions or the answers dont fit your agenda?

Stop making assumptions about me, you're really not very good at it and on top of that you're simply not that funny or even smart... Two things that are a basic requirement for sarcasm and comment battles...

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

3domfighter,

It just seems the ongoing social ills of IV get enhanced by events such as these. Not your average IV party but events that are more appropos in a large space meant for events. And in this case the whole thing was out of any host's control before it started because of the publicity. On a normal IV party night people aren't hiding in their homes.

In addition, all of the alcohol related problems in IV increased greatly once the Board of Supes shut down all the marijuana dispensaries. The difference from one year to the next was astounding.

Sam,
Your own assumptions about me (not to mention the puerility of your posts) only proved to me that you are clueless at best, so rattle on- everybody else is having a big laugh at your expense.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i'll say it.

nobody ever agrees here...but sam, you run your mouth like a bitch.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chris Par needs to be legally banned from Santa Barbara County and from operating social media accounts. Look him up, he is the main one responsible for organizing Deltopia/Floatopia and spreading it through social media for the past four years. That really helped spread the word to random out of towners. He has been in repeated legal trouble (made the news for stealing a golf cart) and has been "enrolled" at UCSB for over six years and hasn't finished his degree yet -- guess what, his rich parents are footing the bill for all of it.

I guess if Par were gone, some other idiot would take his throne as "king of IV", but I'm really amazed that this narcissistic menace hasn't been expelled or thrown in prison for something yet.

oooooooooo (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Padallchewinggum and Noletaman get my vote. Geeze if loon wasn't such a loon, I could see some of his points too along with IWPCHI. Those COPS were looking for a fight and were only going to take the mocking for so long. With all the social media/ News Press/TV buildup. Guess what, UCSB just sat there and watched it all go down. Not a peep. The landlords that indeed do make a killing out there putting 3 or 4 kids to a room probably were squawking away at the COPS to protect their $hitty properties. From the video, I had to chuckle that they got a good snoot full of their own tear gas which probably didn't put them in any better of a mood. I head the police helicopters and sirens start at 10am. Hopefully some lessons learned for next year. I say let them party on the beach with porta potties and let the Greek system clean up the mess.

While watching the drunken children is frustrating, at least no one died this year and the cops could have reacted much worse and probably gotten away with it.

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess you've never been to Athens, Lawrence, Austin, Madison, Eugene, Chico, Oxford, Burlington, Columbia and countless other college towns...

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 12:51 p.m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6qw_...

By the way, you're comments are very classy and not presumptive.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxford's St. Scholastica Riot, 10 Feb 1355, lasted 2 days and left 93 dead.

It started because 2 students didn't like the beer in a bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Schol...

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When "hormone toxicity" meets "power contamination".
Journalizm at 11.

Draxor (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice song Bill, I like that song... But its your not you're... Is that sarcasm I read? Good try Bill, good try, but one needs to be a very good writer in order to convey sarcasm and good writers, write well...

I love how none of the peanut gallery can answer simple questions, instead you all seem to have an amazing clairvoyance and are able to extrapolate so much about me! All from only a few dozen posts... Simply outstanding that you folks are so gifted and yet somehow against all odds are also tremendously unsuccessful, Go figure?

Ken, maybe you and Boycott Boy can get together and form a commune? You both know it all and yet are both unemployed douches who live in campers...

OOOOOOO - are you jealous of Chris? Sounds like it... you know you have no right to tell others how to live ? Just making sure you understand that basic idea... Trying to censor someone for being very good at publicity is pretty much anti-American... are you anti-America?

Lawdy, I am a bitch as are you and so is Ken's wife... But what is amazing, truly amazing is that you can read so much into my posts. You must also be hugely successful and very rich with that natural ability to glean such valuable insights from a tiny amount of data... The world must be easy to someone like you!

Ken, still waiting for you to answer how these kids partying effects you? How they fun takes away from your right to peace and happiness and of course, safety in your home... Unless you are for preemptive law enforcement? If so, you're also an Anti-American.

Maybe you can show us all how smart you are by articulating the reasons behind your points instead of focusing on me? Is that possible? Or is it to hard to explain your reasoning?

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Today's Deltopian is tomorrow's IV bum.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think I can chime here with a simple reply to Sam above. The resources ($$$$$) spent cleaning up this mess is General Fund dollars from the County Coffers....i.e. my tax dollars as well as everyone's above. Money that can go toward Social Services go to pay cops babysitting spoiled brats with no boundries. That is how I am impacted. My tax dollars to clean up a mess from a bunch of kids who don't take responsibilities for their actions. It's the same pool of money for hiring the extra cops that were there, the same money that will pay for the court cases that are sure to take place, etc.

BeachFan (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What was the over/under on cliff fallers?

Walter (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Beachfan, I can understand this but if you're really concerned about the tax waste, you should focus on the waste that is the SBSO and their millions of dollars worth of tactical weaponry. After all , to a man with a hammer everything is a nail... and the the mentally challenged SBSO, anytime they can roll out their bearcat and roll up the OT, they do...

With the sheer amount of wasted tax dollars in this town, focusing on these kids and the few thousand of costs to clean up (compared to the hundreds of thousands they spend) is not really genuine. Its not a bad things mind you, but its not really the reason people are upset. They're upset because the party is not to the liking of the old, stodgie conservative a-holes who make up SB these days...

I'd rather the SBSO deported all the illegals who cost us hundreds of millions a year... now that would be a savings!

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just because we're not 45 yo men going thru some midlife crisis in which they need to partner up with drunk teens doesn't make any of us "stodgie conservative a-holes"; just people with common sense, courtesy and lives.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pardall just enlightened me...

Oxford's St. Scholastica Riot, 10 Feb 1355, lasted 2 days and left 93 dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Schol...

The Chancellor and the Mayor need to come together. Who is the Mayor of IV?

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is no mayor if isla Vista. IV has been unjustly denied cityhood for years and is taxed without representation by the city of Goleta. In fact, IV residents are inelgible for some jobs with the City of Goleta simply for living in IV.
If there were more direct local governance a lot of problems could be alleviated but instead IV is subject to the political whims of politicians who are completely and by choice disconnected from the community unless they can garner publicity.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Mayor would be a person elected by the local residents to whom the local law enforcement would report. Without a Mayor there can be no civility.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was glad to see that BeachFan pointed out what a lot of people overlook: Isla Vista is unincorporated and so there is no city or town of Isla Vista to turn to.

I went to UCSB 75-77 (ended up at CalPolySLO) and lived in Isla Vista most of that time. Now my daughter wants to go to UCSB and I'm still for it, in spite of Deltopia. To some extent, these kind of things are cyclical -- the late 70s were a relative period of calm in part because of the reaction to the B of A bank burning. However, it also boils down to state and county being willing to spend the money and provide the infrastructure needed to keep things sane, both on law enforcement suitable to IV and "social amenities". In the late 70s, these were things like the the IV Youth Project, where I worked at the time, and the IV Foot Patrol. It was easier to do this in the pre-prop 13 era but I think it can still be done now. Sorry libertarians and small gov't folks, but I just don't think there's any way around it. I'm not sure what current IV residents think of this -- and I know I don't really have any business making suggestions -- but there was a big push back then to incorporate as a city. This wouldn't fix anything by itself but it would at least send a message that "we're here and we count" and provide a starting point.

rick_p (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In a related story.

http://www.independent.com/news/2014/...

It raises the question of who is ultimately paying for the party.

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bond measures for buildings aren't the problem. SBCC students are getting an unfair rap in this.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh Ken, por old Ken. You're simply not funny. I dont know if your wife told you were or if you're just trying to hard... but none of your attempts at humor, sarcasm, belittlement or otherwise work... none. In fact, they come across as weak and fearful and the musings of a sad old man... which is more akin to your personality isnt it? A weak, fearful, sad old man...at least that aligns more with your hourly posts where you chime in as the expert in all and everything..

Keep trying though. You make my job a lot easier! And try to lose the envy. Its sad that a man at your stage is so envious of others who have more...

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken sounds like the most reasonable voice in all of this. I'd support him from the stodgy old conservative side. If the students recognized someone was looking out for them I bet they would come out and vote.

here's an opportunity.

http://www.independent.com/news/2014/...

native2sb (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually Ken, I just looked you up for giggles... And surprisingly, you're a 40 something local crappy artist... Man does your work suck, your music sucks and your movies suck (at least the trailers do) .

No wonder you have so much time on your hands... you're an unemployed bum who masquerades as an artist! Holy crap. I really wish you were decent but none of your works is good... its all crap. Which would explain a lot about why you live in IV and post on the Independent all day every day...

What kind of a fool calls themselves an artist and then sells copies and prints of other people work on Etsy?

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Josh. So many comments, so little time. Your comment of Apr 6 at 12:05pm had me laughing so hard, I couldn't see the rest of the comments for the tears in my eyes. People were throwing heads? hahahaha

chilldrinfthenight (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like everyone knows what they're talking about....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeq50Y...

touristunfriendly (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Every riot in history has been started in some way shape or form by police."
- Loonpt

Perhaps the dumbest comment I have ever read on this website.

So according to Loonie, had they played music (as loud as they wanted?) and not allowed police into IV, the rioting would not have occurred?

Glad you are not in charge of public safety in this town.

Justice (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Per Sam_Tababa's post on April 7, 2014 at 11:43 a.m:

It's even worse than he thinks. First of all, Ken Volok, born Kenny McCormick Volok, isn't 45 years old, but he's 77 years old. He's been married 6 times, most recently taking an 18-year-old bride from (you guessed it) Thailand.

During Volok's more than 50-year career as a filmaker, he's well known for his debauched parties in Isla Vista, as well as his second home in Malibu. I went to several of his Malibu shindigs and saw him high on pot, with several high profile Hollywood directors surrounded by skanky, barely legal hookers. After spending 2005-2010 in prison for assault and battery, (he threw a head bust at Kurt Russel while arguing over the virtues of skimmed milk) and severely injured him in the foot.

After his release from prison, he divorced his fifth wife, a model by the name of Sapphire Lovejoy, and married his current wife, but still has loud, sex-fueled shindigs in I.V., much to the irritation of all who live there.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

April 7, 2014 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"@Josh. So many comments, so little time. Your comment of Apr 6 at 12:05pm had me laughing so hard, I couldn't see the rest of the comments for the tears in my eyes. People were throwing heads? hahahaha"

chilldrinfthenight (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 5:30 p.m

You can bet Volok wasn't laughing when he was doing time for throwing that head bust of Agnes Moorhead at Kurt Russel...nothing funny about that at all.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm assuming Sam_Tababa remains anonymous so we can't trace him back to his elderly mother's garage (I mean his home) where he types away wearing tie-die shirts and birkenstocks. He probably has the biggest collection of antique bongs in all of IV to go along with that rebel without a clue attitude.

Thankfully for the rest of us his type has no influence upon public policy or policing policies. Just a lot of chronic hot air.

Validated (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What I like is that Sam_Tababa says Ken is 45 years old, but then calls him an old man. Tababa is good for entertainment purposes.

I can assure you that when I went to dinner with Ken and a number of others, none of us saw Ken chasing after bikini-clad hotties.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't believe how IV has deteriorated. I graduated in 2010 and have been horrified at recent events over the past couple of years. I would not attend UCSB now nor would I allow my future children to go there. It's a shame. Sure there's always been a party culture and rampant alcohol use in IV, but the degree of violence, sheer disrespect for law enforcement, and entitlement has reached new heights. I always felt safe in IV when I attended from 2006-2010, but I wouldn't dare step foot into IV now. It seems like a foreign place, I don't even recognize it anymore watching these horrific videos of Deltopia. This has got to be the straw to break the camel's back. Something needs to be done. God knows what can be done to stop the downward spiral IV is taking, but if the stabbings, gang rapes, and riots continue.....sigh... Gauchos, please, lock it up. Just lock it up. *rips UCSB sticker off car*

JMM580 (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tababa is good for entertainment purposes.

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billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:40 p.m.

Tababa is entertaining porpoises?!...

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rule of thumb. People who talk about their money have none. Sam's next dump doubles his net worth.

Dolphin, you a finny guy.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Tababa, you are being a very mean one today, with your volcanic personality, but of course you raise the good point of how does the actions of the Deltopians "effect" Ken McCormick-Volok, or that matter anyone else?

I suppose, through the process of cogitation, one can surmise that we are all connected. The butterfly flaps its wings in Japan and somehow, it effects the weather over here. We are all connected. One can invoke the Gaia Principle, that all things are connected. Yes, Stephen Hawking and Mike Tyson are connected! As John Lennon wrote in his magnum opus "I am the walrus": "I am he as you are he as you are me. And we are all together. " But later in the song he goes "See how they smile like pigs in a sty
See how they snide, I'm crying"

I'm not sure where this is going, but please bear with me.

When you ask for answers, first, you must know what the question is. At that point, you will realize, that the answer lies within you. YOU have the power within you, so the Voloks, the Walters, the Clausens, the beachfans are irrelevant and immaterial, you are the power.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 3:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lawdy, I am a bitch as are you and so is Ken's wife...

Sam_Tababa (anonymous profile)
April 7, 2014 at 3:41 p.m.

Like the late King Henry VIII he has had six wives, so which one is it? (Here's a clue Sammy, it isn't Anne Bolyn, or even Mark Bolin of T-Rex) As you are, I am he.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 3:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kind of a bummer how this has degraded into personal attacks and name calling rather than a discussion of the articles contents. I am not sure if it makes one feel better to put another one down and what the motivation would be on an anonymous web comment form. Did one want to be Alpha blogger person? Why go off topic with personal attacks?

IV has some issues, and I think the landlords, and the school need to step up and assume some responsibility for what is going on out there rather than blaming the county or Goleta. It is crazy how UCSB acts like thier own little casino, build build build with very little regulation. Then on the flip side they really don't do much that I see regarding the fiscal responsibility for the safekeeping of their people. I think UCSB ought to tow more of the line for Fire and LE in IV. Let them provide their own police force and fire department. Might cut into their building budget huh?

Also I think Kelly Hoover is ridiculous for saying everything is ridiculous. I am quite sure she wasn't there. We will see what happens when all is said and done. I think both sides made some pretty lame decisions.

Novel Idea: Have the next Deltopia ON CAMPUS!

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UCSB warned their students about Deltopia and advised them not to go! They don't own Isla Vista. They can only reasonably be expected to control what happens on their campus and satellite grounds.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok well we will now see if they follow through with their warnings and if there are any expulsions. That might get the point across.

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm currently a graduate student at MIT after attending UC Santa Barbara for four years. I believe that this weekend's events were gratuitous. Although it's imperative that some of these large events are better regulated by authorities, most of these comments are histrionic. I wonder about all of these obtuse participants placing inimical blame on the university or even the students. Please keep your odious remarks to yourself if you haven't attended this UC campus, it is a beautiful and stimulating university environment; hands-down one of the finest in the United States.

JohnN (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is a thought I caught wind of in another article. Those of us who were here in the early 90's remember the fiasco that was Halloween in IV. It got so bad that it was around 93 they closed IV off to all but residents only. After a few years, they loosened up when it became more of a "locals" party. It has been nowhere the debacle it was since. It's about time to seriously consider doing this for Deltopia.

BeachFan (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it would be hilarious to have a forum with Hoover, Yang, and all the other representatives of the community and watch the looks on their faces when the question is asked "had the participants been high on marijuana and not drunk, do you think the outcome would have been less violent?"

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about a monthly county surcharge on every residential rental property in Isla Vista? And the closer that particular street is to the ocean, the higher the surcharge. This money would go towards paying for clean up costs in the aftermath of such parties and general community improvement. I went to UCSB and lived in I.V. and we had a vibrant party atmosphere with far less damage than what these current students have created.
I also noticed on Friday night that the A.S. Vice President was very quick to lay all of the blame on city college students and out-of-towners. I am sure a lot of students are quick to point out their reputation for partying and annual rankings as a top party school year in and year out (I know we were). So when something goes bad you need to own it. Don't be quick to point fingers at other elements. I didn't notice too many students asking people to stay away from Isla Vista that weekend on social media where Deltopia was heavily promoted. I also don't think all of those troublemaking out-of-towners and city college students commandeered every house on Del Playa and forced the UCSB students to hold a bunch of parties. It went south. Accept responsibility.
I also noticed there was a request today from AS calling for a grand jury inquiry into what started the events that night. And in that request there was at least a partial acceptance of responsibility. I guess that's a start. But don't go blaming the police for the riot when they were trying to keep order. The riot started because there were a bunch of people there in the first place. And don't cry about the music ordinance being enforced. Be an adult and deal with it. We had those same zero tolerance policies when I was there and we still knew how to have a good time.
And there is nothing new about heavy handed police tactics in Isla Vista. We had that also. However, I never had trouble with the police because I knew how to behave in public. I love that school and I am happy that my time in Isla Vista will always be with me.
After graduating I stayed in Santa Barbara and tended bar for a while at a then very popular spot in Isla Vista as well as one downtown. And I, along with a lot of other people in the service industry, noticed a huge difference in the attitudes of the student body some time around 2009. Amongst the students of legal drinking age at that time it seemed like there was a huge decline in empathy, an overgrown sense of entitlement, and a lack of accountability. That is not to say that all students were like that. It was just that what had previously been a rare encounter became the norm. So the only difference between then and now is the typical UCSB student. I certainly hope that more students will own up to their responsibility since they are the stewards of that community for now. It could be a valuably lesson in transitioning to adulthood.

Spicoli (anonymous profile)
April 8, 2014 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sure the students wouldn't paying extra rent to cover the surcharge for the party clean-up, especially the ones that actually study and have no interest in the power-drinking party activities.

Botany (anonymous profile)
April 9, 2014 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think there is some officer restitution fee on certain DUI arrests. It is where the convicted offender has to pay an hourly rate for each one of the officers responding on scene. It is kind of a joke if 8 of them show up eating doughnuts to arrest some drunken old lady while watching over a rookie making his first arrest, but it is away for the state to get some revenue from these offenses. Perhaps a similar "surcharge" could be levied upon UCSB and the IV slumlords association so that the rest of us taxpayers don't have to pay for all this babysitting.

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
April 9, 2014 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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