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How Much Do College Presidents and UC Chancellors Make?

Recent Chronicle of Higher Education Report Breaks Down Salaries


Tuesday, December 24, 2013
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Forty-two private college presidents in the country made more than $1 million in 2011, according to a study released last week by the Chronicle of Higher Education, which included base pay, bonuses, and housing and transportation allowances for 500 private colleges in the nation. On the lower end of the overall pay survey — but clocking in as the seventh highest-paid president in his peer group — was Westmont College President Gayle Beebe, who makes $318,445 annually. Many of the top paid heads of schools are stationed on the East Coast and Midwest, except for the USC’s president, who made nearly $1.4 million in 2011 and ranked 13th overall.

Unsurprisingly, public school chiefs earn less than the top dogs at most private colleges. For the 20 years that UCSB Chancellor Henry Yang has headed the university, he’s been a bargain for the school compared to his counterparts at most other UC campuses. With a yearly salary of $323,916, Yang makes considerably less than the chancellors at Berkeley and UCLA, who earn roughly $445,000 and $424,000, respectively. UC chancellors at campuses in Irvine and Davis also make more than Yang, earning just over $400,000 each year, according to an annual report on the total cash compensation for executives released by the Office of the President for the calendar year 2012. Chancellors at Santa Cruz and Merced earn comparable salaries to Yang’s. Physicians and senior administrators at medical centers and head coaches are the highest paid employees in the UC system, but those salaries are inflated by grants and endowments and not fully derived from state funds.

The UC report states faculty and staff salaries “lag significantly” behind market levels. The executive compensation is less than one percent of the total payroll — $11.2 billion — and the presidents and chancellors have not received salary increases in six years. This fact, the report goes on, increases retention and hiring challenges that already exist at UC. Former UC President Mark Yudof made close to $850,000 in total pay before he was replaced by former Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano. Napolitano, who began her position in September, will earn a base salary of $570,000, plus close to $10,000 a month for an Oakland apartment and $8,900 a year for car expenses.

City college presidents are generally paid less than four-year university chiefs, but many still earn hundreds of thousands of dollars annually. SBCC President Lori Gaskin makes $250,000 annually, with an $850 monthly allowance to cover auto and mobile phone expenses. Gaskin’s pay is comparable to area two-year schools, including the president at Allan Hancock who earns about $245,500 yearly. The president of Cuesta College, a community college in San Luis Obispo, makes about $216,000.

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And students and there parents wonder why tuition is so expensive. What a scam paid for by taxpayers…..

Priceless (anonymous profile)
December 24, 2013 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yang is certainly at the low end of the pay scale. One thing omitted from this article is the total *compensation* in some cases… Yudof, for example, got a very lucrative retirement package that quoting his salary alone does not capture.

The auto and housing $ allowances are one version of extra compensation.

Yang does live in a campus house and pays for no maintenance, utilities, etc. But he could have requested $ payments for off campus housing. I think he does get a car allowance.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
December 24, 2013 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

staff salaries “lag significantly"
21 years ago it was a great place to work. Now the pay is so lagging any and all of us should have gotten a job elsewhere and planned and paid for the UC benefits that shrink more than yearly.

sbpaddy (anonymous profile)
December 24, 2013 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Strangely enough, the cost of higher education has far outpaced inflation for the past 20 years. Where is all the money going?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
December 25, 2013 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Personnel costs always consume the largest part of the education dollar. Why is anyone asking still where all the money is going that is leaving students today in so much debt?

Administrators are few, so bashing their collective salaries is merely a diversionary tactic. (Yes you guessed it, this diversion is encouraged by the faculty unions)

The vast amount of education dollars is spent instead on faculty and staff, for both present and future benefits. Do the math. Especially the future benefits that now form the large part of any institution's unfunded liabilities that now consume increasing shares of the education dollar.

Teaching is a great career these days, long removed from the thread-bare, elbow-patched professor who lived in company housing ala Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf". Too bad tenure has created such a hammerlock on these lucrative jobs education now offer because the good slots are hard to come by.

Think about it. Pension promises were made as a future benefit in lieu of higher salaries a few decades ago. Then came higher salaries any way with the growth of faculty union clout.

So now one pays nearly double for every person now teaching: paying the one presently teaching, and paying also for the one no longer teaching who got the pension promises and perks now come due today.

I repeat: Students today therefore have to pay more because (1) they are paying for the present instructor at much higher rates of compensation and (2) also the pension and benefit promises made to prior instructors now since retired.

Why does this basic math continue to escape everyone?

BTW: this is the cost of education. It was just hidden from you before.

You paid too little in the past. You are now paying your fair share for what you are getting - you are hiring people who provide services for you at prices already set by someone else. You can take it or leave it. Or work hard, and get scholarships.

Feel a modicum of sympathy for Gov Perry in Texas who wants to provide a four-year college education that costs each student no more than $10,000 total. Wish him luck.

BTWII: Few college educations are worth generating massive debt before you even find that first job, robbing you of the joy of finally making it in the world on your own. Find the right college that fits your needs; not what you think is the "best college" that saps you with debt.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 28, 2013 at 5:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ah, foo, you understand so little and scribble so much. "Teachers" are not "personnel" in my book!! You include staff, administrators, and others under your insulting term, "personnel".
Uh, yes, DUH! the teachers' salaries should be the biggest part of your "education dollar", these are SCHOOLS... got it? Think a bit, foo, you're so silly as dolphin14 would chirp.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Teachers do receive the largest share of the education dollar. That is why education costs more today. They are very well-paid and well-benefited in this state. Third highest in the nation. Except when California comes in 49th out of 50 in student educational outcomes, let's just call it what it really is - high-priced day care, with benefits.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@foofighter: "They are very well-paid and well-benefited in this state. Third highest in the nation. Except when California comes in 49th out of 50 in student educational outcomes, let's just call it what it really is - high-priced day care, with benefits."

Cherry picking stats yet again, because looking at the whole picture shows that you really have no clue.

CA teachers have the largest average class size in all 50 states, and rank 33 in 'Salary Comfort Index' - meaning they're actually underpaid when considering workload, cost of living, etc. Additionally, it costs roughly $30k per year for six years to obtain the Bachelors and Masters degree needed to reach the higher salaries. So that's about $180,000 in costs to earn the $67k average salary for what amounts to guaranteed job dissatisfaction.

The problem is not with the teachers and salaries. It's with the lack of concern by the state as a whole as to the quality of the education being provided our children.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

foo's troll-like BS with false facts is disgusting. Thank, Eat.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is what is wrong with education in California today: too many teachers hanging on to their jobs, hating what they do and feeling like perpetual victims taking it out on their students while waiting for their $53,000 a year pension for life to kick in as reward for their few decades of 180 day a year jobs.

Why are they still waiting for something or someone from the outside to heal their profession?

Here is the kicker. If they ever got it right, they would lose all justification to stick their hands out every year demanding more money. ….. so they can finally get it right. (Wash, rinse, repeat)

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@foofighter: "Here is what is wrong with education in California today: too many teachers hanging on to their jobs, hating what they do and feeling like perpetual victims taking it out on their students while waiting for their $53,000 a year pension for life to kick in as reward for their few decades of 180 day a year jobs. "

So you're just going to repeat the same talking points over and over again, getting more incendiary and less factual each time, in spite of all of the evidence to the contrary. Got it. Thanks for bringing absolutely nothing to the table.

You know what the REAL problem is? People like you who want more for less and are continually surprised when that doesn't fix the problem.

@foofighter: "(Wash, rinse, repeat)"

No kidding.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Prop 98: 50% of all California general tax revenues is mandated to support K-14 education in this state; well over 90% of which goes to K-12.

Schools have taken the lion's share of all state tax revenues now for decades for increasingly dismal results.

As the California economy grows even more tax revenues flood into teacher union coffers. As property values rise, even more money floods into teacher union coffers.

And once a local parcel tax is passed, it exists in perpetuity because failure to renew damages teacher union benefits, even though claimed speciously these temporary parcel taxes are "for the children".

Yet the one thing that remains constant is the extremely poor rankings for student outcomes for this state. And the extremely poor rankings of the state's teacher education institutions - also tax payer funded.

Wash, rinse and repeat while the water remains dirtied by the teacher union campaign of obfuscation is an exercise in futility.

Teachers, heal thy selves. We are waiting. Or, please quit and make room for new voices, minds and hearts who are up to the task.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The W. Bush administration purposefully sabotaged California's economy and infrastructure, including education; leading to the conditions today. Overall the goal is to privatize the educational system entirely, which I oppose.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I had no idea there was this massive movement to eliminate the Prop 98 guarantee for K-12 and privatize public education in this state..

I must have missed all the circulating petitions to put this on the ballot, and the endorsement by the Democratic super-majority in Sacramento to make this happen.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Addressing the EatTheRich/Foofighter debate: From what I've seen, one *can* get more for less. From what I've read, the overall cost of educating a child at a Catholic school (and I'm using that as a financial template for othe private schools) is less than a public school because of less administrative costs, and it goes without saying the level of education is better at a Catholic school much better. (I can testify, having gone to both)

I also was listening to a radio program the other day where the topic of conversation was the success of charter schools in Los Angeles was being discussed and how the Los Angeles Unified School District was doing what it could to impede these schools with their regulations despite the charter schools being not only better at teaching, but also much more cost-efficient.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Teachers are overworked and underpaid. Blame them all you want - the situation is not their fault. And asking them to continue to do more for less - which appears to be the only solution you are able to muster - is INSANE.

Again, it's this quasi-libertarian attempt to create a permanent underclass, since that's really the goal in all of this anti-union nuttiness.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BC: guess who writes the regulations educational administrators are required to carry out and enforce?

You guessed it, the teacher-union purchased state legislators. Tell them to revise the multi-volume state Education Code pronto if you want to finally be able to trim the numbers or administrators it takes to keep the school house door open every day.

Go down to the second floor county law library of the court house and pull out any one of the many volumes of the California Education Code and start chopping.

Or, you can start reading it online and dispose of chapter after chapter of regulations requiring armies of administrators to carry out. C'mon. Time's awaiting.

Be sure to read the sections about penalties and teacher union causes of action if every single letter of these voluminous regulations are not carried out or the district ends up on the wrong side of a teacher union lawsuit. Then go to federal education statutes and NLRB mandates once you get through the Calif Ed Code.

Contemplate the delicious irony that it was the teachers unions themselves that created the need for so many layers of administrators to ensure all the teacher union job protection statutes and regulations get carried out. Yesterday.

Happy New Year.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EatTheRich: The money is being poured into the system, if the teachers aren't getting paid, then that means the money is going elsewhere.

We have been conditioned as a society to believe that any money ostensibly given to the schools goes to the schools, and that we must never question such endowments.

It's the history of humankind: The people on the top get all the $$$.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I blame teachers for holding on to jobs they hate. Their attitude badly affects what goes on in the classroom. They love to tell us they could make twice as much in private industry with their "skills". Good for them and good bye.

They should leave teaching and open the door for an entirely new group of better trained teachers in this state. They are now dead wood and have lived well past their shelf-life, producing rotten products.

It is not healthy to have people trained 20-30 years ago teaching today's student demographics. Particularly when they have spent the last 20 years complaining about their jobs, working conditions and compensation instead of taking up the challenge of the failed work product their own efforts have produced.

(1) Getting rid of tenure needs to be job number one. (2) Next ban teacher unions. (3) Then dramatically reform the grotesque compensation schedules teachers unions have extracted these past few decades of Democratic control of the state education agenda.

Accomplish just these three things and we can start talking again about our failing public schools. It is all about the children.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BC: do you understand the concept that we now have to pay nearly twice to get just one teacher in the classroom?

One time for the retired teacher's life long pension (average $53,000 a year per Pew Trusts) and one time for the teacher actually in the class room (average $90,000 a year per SBUSD). Every year.

Keep reading this last sentence until it finally makes sense. And then move on to "unfunded pension liabilities" this state is also facing, including CalSTRS. Since CalSTRS does not have the money to fund their pension promises, they send a bill every year to each district to make up the difference.

Then take a look at your property tax bills already going out to local schools and add that deficit financing to the mix.

Then also ask why you think it is a good idea for each teacher to take $1000 a year off the top of what we pay them and hand it over to their teacher union bosses, just so we get to listen to the teacher union blame game refrain for one more year.

Change will happen but not until we all get on the same page and demand we do things differently. Including not passing any more parcel taxes or bond issues until teachers learn to live within a budget with the 50% of tax dollars they are already getting.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"BC: do you understand the concept that we now have to pay nearly twice to get just one teacher in the classroom? "

It's a "concept", and not a provision of data?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Foofighter, why U such an angry boy today? Drink some water, and move your bowels, and you won't be such an angry booy today.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CalSTRS unfunded pension facts and figures liabilities from the editorial board of the Sacramento Bee: http://capoliticalnews.com/2013/03/25...

Claim the public education dollar unfunded pension liability for teachers is growing by $17 million dollars a day. More bake sales are not going to cut it.

Federal debt is so huge and also growing the feds are afraid to raise interest rates so a teacher getting a $53,000 a year average pension is the equivalent of $5 million in the bank for each teacher earning 1% a year.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

foofighter is a perfect example of someone reciting stats without knowing what they mean. Case in point...

@foofighter: "It is not healthy to have people trained 20-30 years ago teaching today's student demographics."

And later...

@foofighter: "..$53,000 a year pension for life.."

The average teacher retires at 62 and the average life expectancy is 79 - hardly a lifetime of the $53k a year that 'foofighter' claims. Also, teachers contribute 8% of their paycheck to retirement - so that $53k is more like $48k. Again, keeping in mind that CA has the largest class size and is among the highest cost of living - and that job satisfaction is 33 among CA teachers - the problem is not teacher salaries.

@foofighter: "I blame teachers for holding on to jobs they hate."

Because blaming dedicated public servants always works out. Keep losing those elections!

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Teacher union employees are losing students. By far the more tragic loss. We tried smaller classrooms under Jack O'Connell and it accomplished nothing. We tried ever higher taxes and salaries and accomplished nothing.

Teachers who hate their jobs and feel perpetually victimized are a bad investment for taxpayers to keep funding, hoping it will lead to different results.

This is not teacher bashing; this is good advice.

Get out of the profession and leave the door open for someone new who is not resentful and burned out, who thinks $90,000 a year for a 9 month year is a good deal and $53,000 a year pension for life is reward enough for a well-benefited public service career..

Teachers need to check their teacher union-poisoned attitudes at the door so they can put their full energies in to the task for which they were hired: teaching the children who come through their doors, and not wishing they were something else.

Please do this, for the children. The children sitting in your classrooms right now today. They have no where else to turn to learn their basic skills. You owe them at least this. All of them.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2013 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Such a weird blanket satement of teachers Foo dripping with the same bitterness and resentment you accuse all current California teachers of having.. it's just a bizarre manipulation of facts weaved into fiction..with an utter disdian for humanity.. "another token tantrum to cover up the fear".
Yes there's teachers who are burned ourt and bad teachers; but the hurned out teachers are the result of policies poeple such as yourself have enacted (No Child Left Behind) .. and some people are just bad.
You neglect the many thousands who do it out of passion and love for teaching and nurturing and expanding the range of human knowledge and ideas. It's that " throw the bay out with the bathwater" thinking that tossed Japanese Americans into internment camps.*

*Is this Godwin adjacent?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2013 at 2 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Teachers who hate their jobs and feel victimized, resentful and burned out who claim they can make twice as much in private industry should leave the profession.

This would allow those who do love teaching to thrive without their burned-out colleagues deadweight dragging down the entire system which now routinely scores near the bottom of the barrel in student outcomes.

Let those committed by principle and not merely by paycheck, allow this system to blossom once again in our state.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2013 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RFLMAO, foofighter. This article was mainly about UC… there is no faculty union at UC!!!!

By any measure UC competes with the very most elite private schools. Somehow you miss that whole point, foofighter.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2013 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Comparing UC to "elite private schools" is to damn by faint (feint) praise these days. Please set your sights higher.

Sorry you missed the discussion turning point when the conversation drifted to K-12 and teachers; not university professors and instructors.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2013 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, it's at the very least Godwin adjacent. foo = troll, and boring. Win: to Eat the R!

DrDan (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2013 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's the deal FooFighter: You make some good points but you're arrogant and condescending. Lose the attitude and people might listen to you. I was actually agreeing with you and you still were insulting.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2013 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@foofighter: "Please do this, for the children."

About the most disingenuous comment I've read in a long while. It's takes... audacity... to make up a bunch of nonsense, and then trot out this 'do it for the children' crap. You don't care about the children at all, and no one with any sense is buying it.

@foofighter: "Sorry you missed the discussion turning point when the conversation drifted to K-12 and teachers;"

*YOU* are the one who turned it with your baseless and nonsensical arguments, you maroon.

@billclausen: "You make some good points but you're arrogant and condescending."

Sorry, billclausen, but the arrogance and condescension comes with not a single good point. It's the same tired nonsense we've been hearing from the reactionary right for decades. People like foofighter have led the charge to cripple public education. It's about breaking any and all unions. They long for the days of being able to chain child workers to machinery with impunity - THAT is what this conversation is really about.

People who think along the lines of foofighter want to create a permanent service class. Period. They just can't come out and say it because its the 21st century and reasonable people won't put up with it.

Do the teachers unions have problems? Yes. Is the solution to attack and gut teacher pay? Absolutely not.

@DrDan "Win: to Eat the R!"

Thanks, but I have all the satisfaction that one would have in beating a one legged man is a butt kicking contest. This place is getting overrun with lunacy.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2013 at 5:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maroon. Ah, a person of color, right?

The issue is for California K-12 teachers to be happy getting the Prop 98 guaranteed 50% of all general tax funds dedicated only to California public education.

Not a penny more, and not a penny less. Which is a number that goes up and down depending upon the health of the state economy. Choose to teach in the public sector and this is what you get.

Once you accept this Prop 98 dedication to public education made by the taxpayers is what you get rain or shine, it is time to deliver the other half of the bargain: get our students out of the basement in national wide academic rankings.

Or, get out of public education in California and make room for those who do accept the Prop 98 commitment to California public education.

It is for the children.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2013 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When one chooses to work for the government, particularly teaching in K-12 it is critical to also pay attention to what is happening to the state economy.

The state's overall economic health undergirds the Prop 98 guarantee that 50% of state tax general funds are dedicated to public education.

A healthy business environment is healthy for public school revenues in direct proportion to state general fund taxes generated.

Dan Walters in the Sacramento Bee explains this best: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/12/30/6036...

We can't be a state of takers; and no makers. The math does not work.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2013 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Maroon" is a phrase used by Warner Brothers superstar Bugs Bunny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7...

As for a "person of color", the skin pigment you infer does not occur in nature.

As for our public education system being in trouble: I've been to school board meetings, and have seen the methodology of the teachers.

Teachers are human beings, and do not neccesarily speak Ex Cathedra, especially when money trails are to be followed.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2013 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Teachers "speak" through their collective bargaining representatives when it comes to compensation and work conditions.

Any possible dialogue with teachers about the educational failings our schools produce is no longer a dialogue when the teachers unions do all the talking and install their teacher-union loyalists on those very same school boards.

All the public hears from the teachers unions, the voice of the teachers, is we need even more money or we can't do anything so what do you expect besides always being at the bottom of state rankings. Give us more money.

We never hear anything else. Nor do we see any improvements initiated by the teachers themselves, let alone their teacher unions. How do you suggest we repair this conversation if 50% of all general tax revenue is all teachers are ever going to get?

foofighter (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2013 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and foo just regurgitates on and on... glad I skipped it.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2013 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1. 50% of all state general tax revenues go to public education in this state.

2. California teachers are third highest paid in the nation.

3. California students rank 49 out of 50 in state educational outcomes.

Happy 2014!

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you just cherry pick stats which fit your teacher/student hating prejudice, foo; you are always and only about the money. You likely checked the NEA site (not that you could be bothered to give a webref) -- http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-... -- and yeah, Calif. teachers are third highest paid after NY and Mass., HOWEVER, if you had bothered to check the "salary comfort score", Calif. ranks 33rd nationally out of the 50 states. This salary comfort index factors in cost of living -- dude, it's a lot higher here in Calif! -- and Calif. teachers thus do not fare so well. It is particularly difficult in expensive Santa Barbara. KV is right, you support the Romney/GOP drive to privatize education.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Starting salary for a Calif. beginning public school teacher is about $41,000 [http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/]: try having a family and living on that in Santa Barbara.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 6:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SBUSD financial officer stated to the NewsPress, each teacher costs the district $90,000. For a nine-month, 180 work day year.

Always do the 9 month multiplier when assessing teacher salaries. So just using the alleged "average salary" is $4500 a month. A 12 salary at that rate would be $54,000 plus an approximate $10-15,000 a year more in benefits. And an "average $53,000 a year pension for life.

For the SBUSD $90,000 figure, you obviously have a $120,000 12 month salary. There should be no problem for any teacher to be able to live well in Santa Barbara.

Teachers are well compensated in this state- the third highest pay rates in the nation. And average CalSTRS pension of $53,000 a year for life when no longer working.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Schools get far more than just 50% of the general tax revenues. They get parcel taxes and bond issues as well.

Look at your property tax bill and add up how much more you pay directly for SBUSD bond measures and parcel taxes.

Add that to the 50% of all general tax revenues and ask yourself why teachers keep demanding more money and why can't they produce better outcomes than 49 out of 50.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sacramento Bee calculator: average SBUSD salary for 2012 is over $69,000 a year. (9 month year)

Then add medical benefits, pension benefits, paid days off and whatever other income a teacher can make during the 3 months off. SB teachers do very well. Why are people saying they do not? This is all public information.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/26/9951...

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's utterly maddening that you're allowed to post and repost, without consequence, the same information over and over - ignoring everything and everyone else.

@foofighter: "For the SBUSD $90,000 figure, you obviously have a $120,000 12 month salary. There should be no problem for any teacher to be able to live well in Santa Barbara."

You're INVENTING statistics. You can't simply extrapolate salary as if it was prorated without looking at the actual work week. The average teacher puts in 53 hours a week. Which means they're essentially making up that three month break you're giving them during the school year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/a...

@foofighter: "Add that to the 50% of all general tax revenues and ask yourself why teachers keep demanding more money and why can't they produce better outcomes than 49 out of 50."

Perhaps because the other statistic in which CA ranks 49th out of 50th is in spending per pupil.

http://edsource.org/today/2013/califo...

Bottom line - you are deliberately inventing and cherry picking stats while ignoring the MOUNTAIN of evidence rendering your argument moot. And you're posting three times a go and repeating ad nauseam a point that is so easy to debunk that's it's almost laughable that you're sticking to it.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Odd reaction, ETR. Actually it is the other posters who are making up statistics and/or misapplying them to the local scene.

One has to also wonder why some people's brains implode when pointing out teachers are in fact well compensated in SB. It was the SBUSD CFO herself who stated each teacher cost the district $90,000.

Proves the theory the teacher union forces are heavily invested in their under-paid, over-worked and under-appreciated agenda and will never get adequate classroom results because it takes away all incentives to keep demanding more, more, more.

Not sure why this is the case but the children do suffer from this oppressive barrage of chronic teacher unhappiness and calculated misinformation campaign.

Teacher compensation in this state is public information and is available on a number of websites by district and by school, and the state controller's office who lists this information by the actual name of employee.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

(Comment directed at FooFighter) "It's utterly maddening that you're allowed to post and repost, without consequence, the same information over and over - ignoring everything and everyone else."

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 8:15 p.m

It's not a matter of consequence, when one posts a statement you believe to be untrue, it's up to you to present a better argument. That's the beauty of free speech.

As the sayings go "Iron sharpens iron" and "build a better mousetrap" If you have confindence in the strength of your argument, you need not worry about consequences, because you will have won the argument. If you're dealing with a troll, than he/she will discredit themself.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The "comfort ranking" website admits this is only a subjective allocation of little merit, but also includes the following observation for for California now 4th ranking in teacher salaries:

"California is the 4th top state for average salaries for teachers but don't be fooled.

In fact, California is the single most important place we stress getting that higher degree for that very reason.

There are many other benefits to living in California of course - and many people can - and do - live comfortably off of a standard teacher's salary.

With recent budget issues, the education budget has come into question - luckily strong unions and interest in education at a national and state level looks to keep this a secure place to be in any environment."

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2013 EdWeek Rankings: Calif no longer near the bottom but well below national average - http://www.edweek.org/ew/qc/2013/stat...

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2014 at 11:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ETR, it's called Crack.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
January 2, 2014 at 1:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ahhh, did Pajama Boy not get his hot chockie this morning?

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 2, 2014 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

keep cool, foo, just cut and paste some more right wing BS, your money obsession...obviously, you're a failed politician, but hey, keep blabbing

DrDan (anonymous profile)
January 2, 2014 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Foofighter---Kung Fu fighting--just random thoughts into the night.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
January 3, 2014 at 2:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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