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Cold Spring Bridge


First Cold Spring Bridge Suicide Since New Barrier


Wednesday, September 12, 2012
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Sheriff’s deputies Monday morning responded to an apparent suicide at Cold Spring Bridge at 1:40 a.m. and found the body of 30-year-old Santa Monica resident Peter Roycewicz near Stagecoach Road, which runs under the 1,148-foot span on Highway 154 just north of San Marcos Pass. Roycewicz’s car was found on the road nearby, and his family has been notified of his death. The suicide marks the first from the bridge since a mesh barrier was installed — after much controversy — along its sides six months ago. Authorities say they don’t know how Roycewicz got over or past the 9-foot 7-inch mesh guard.

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And who knows how many other suicides occurred somewhere else because this thing was built. I doubt one suicide has been prevented due to this thing. At least it's construction gave some people work for a while, despite it being an eyesore.

Botany (anonymous profile)
September 12, 2012 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Paging sevendolphins ... paging sevendolphins ...

eightdolphins (anonymous profile)
September 12, 2012 at 6:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

eightdolphins (anonymous profile)
September 12, 2012 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That barrier might prevent a car from going over the side in an accident; but it wouldn't stop any human with reasonable skills of deduction and dexterity getting around it and jump/falling to their deaths.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
September 13, 2012 at 12:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Krakatoa/Kratatoa/Pinatubo is vindicated.

The money would have been better spent for suicide prevention counseling.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
September 13, 2012 at 12:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with all the above posts, and this way-over-the-top Nanny-State monstrosity of a barrier was ill-conceived and wasteful. Yes, Bill, best spend the dough on public education and suicide prevention counseling.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
September 13, 2012 at 5:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's sad but true, those who are determined will successed in ending their own lives and no barrier will ever sway their quest.

dou4now (anonymous profile)
September 13, 2012 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I applaud the folks that fought for years for this barrier to be built. No one ever claimed that it would be 100% effective - a person dead-set on suicide is going to accomplish it one way or another. But, research shows that such barriers do help prevent opportunistic suicides when an attractive method presents itself. Barriers buy time for further reflection and possible intervention. Of course, it is virtually impossible to judge how many suicide-prone people are deterred from suicide by a particular barrier, but studies show that barriers do make a difference.
Excellent article with links to sources and studies:
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives...
also: http://theconversation.edu.au/can-bar...
John Douglas

JohnDouglas (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I question how much a barrier would help prevent a suicide given the amount of time it would take to drive up the Cold Springs Bridge. One would have time to reflect as they were driving up there.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 1:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

>>"No one ever claimed that it would be 100% effective">"But, research shows that such barriers do help prevent opportunistic suicides when an attractive method presents itself. Barriers buy time for further reflection and possible intervention. Of course, it is virtually impossible to judge how many suicide-prone people are deterred from suicide by a particular barrier, but studies show that barriers do make a difference."<<

Proven false multiple times. Start here: http://www.polsci.ucsb.edu/faculty/gl...

eightdolphins (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 3:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Much like with drugs, our laws and attitudes about suicide are just bizarre:
It is illegal to commit suicide;
A barrier will stop someone from committing an irrational act;
We waste money and time on things we can not stop in order to make ourselves feel better.

Except for acute intervention, staying in touch with your friends and loved ones, and a certain amount of awareness, why can't we just admit that a certain percentage of people will attempt to kill themselves. This fact is sad but true.

italiansurg (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 5:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Perhaps if we increased the punishment for committing suicide illegally, we would have fewer suicides. ;)

Botany (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 6:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

John Douglas, I do not doubt the stats, and if we could empower the government to fix everything of this sort life would become a sort of prison. I am a liberal, but this just seems a waste of money AND unjustifiable given the crying need for more monies for public education.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I drive that way regularly to go fishing at Cachuma. At the speed of 55 or so, you can't even notice it obstruct any view. Yes, when people are dead set to kill themselves, they will. I see bikers on it all the time. Does it provide some measure of safety for them when avoiding a car? Probably.

It's there. Get over it. Move on.

BeachFan (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

>>"It's there. Get over it. Move on."<<

The real issue isn't the view. It's that Caltrans ignored public opinion and expert advice and built a $4 million "anti-suicide fence" that doesn't work.

eightdolphins (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Even though it was a worthless project, it gave some people employment for a short time. I guess that makes it worth $4M, right?

Botany (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The barrier almost makes it a challenge, I wonder how many people will jump just out of spite?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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Draxor (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 7:13 p.m.

Wow Draxor! Getting angry at a man who was so tortured that he took his own life.

You *really* are need of help.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
September 14, 2012 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A couple of months ago Draxor posted:

>>"Number of suicides since barrier installment: 0
To the dismay of FOB, it's working.
Carry on."<<

eightdolphins (anonymous profile)
September 17, 2012 at 12:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Decisions based on one event are Poisson.

eleventysevendolphins (anonymous profile)
October 8, 2012 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You only need a large hill to commit suicide. Stepping around the barrier is all that's needed. But I'm still happy the barrier was put up. It may give a few people more chance to get their brain in shape for living happily.

Suggestion;
Add a few lighted bulletin boards at each end of the bridge to enable reading on the subject of suicide causes and solutions. Add a phone to a hotline too. Mental illness that causes suicide is a chemical imbalance. Once the balance is restored, much fewer people would commit suicide (unless it's physical illness of course).

khiggler (anonymous profile)
May 27, 2013 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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