One of the 30 men named in the city’s proposed gang injunction was sentenced Monday morning to eight years in state prison.
Marcos Ramos, 33 years old and an alleged Westside Projects gang member, was convicted by a Santa Barbara jury in July of possession of a firearm by a felon and possessing ammunition. He was arrested in February 2010 at 33 ½ Parker Way, after police received a call of trespassing.
Ramos — who has served two prior prison sentences — and another man were found in a vacant apartment, where officers testified to finding a bag out in the hallway that contained a Browning .22 caliber semi-automatic handgun. The defense argued the prosecution didn’t prove Ramos knew the bag’s contents. The jury was hung on a drug possession charge and found Ramos not guilty of possessing a controlled substance with a firearm.
After Monday’s sentencing — Ramos received the maximum prison term possible — with Judge Frank Ochoa, prosecutor Hans Almgren dropped two pending cases against Ramos, one a weapons possession and the other an allegation related to vandalism and drinking alcohol in Santa Barbara County Jail.
Ramos is one of several of the 30 alleged gang members named in the city’s proposed injunction who sits behind bars. The injunction is set to go to trial early next year.
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This is one of "our children" that the Progressive apologists are attempting to protect from the Gang Injunction? A 33 year old multiple time loser criminal? Wow, shouldn't most kids in a sane society have figured out that their "parents" aren't going to protect them if they're lowlifes when they're 33?
italiansurg (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Have fun in the Cellular Hotel!
Draxor (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
One down.....29 to go. Then the count starts all over again.
A NEVER ending supply.
SanityNow (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
BAM! Snag em' bag em' that's how the injunction should work. Good job SBPD, all things recent considered.
The BEST thing is the injunction isn't even needed for slimers like this since they'll do something ridiculous during their tenure in "da hood."
But the injunction will make it WAY easier to put em' up @ Hotel Graybar. How's that old techno song go? Oh, yeah:
"Hi mom, I'm in jail!
It's really nice here, IN JAIL!
Say hi & happy b-day to dad, from JAIL!"
A 33 yr. old multiple time LOSER, can't seem to get it right & somehow that's OUR fault? HAHAHA! Try another shot because that's simply a clear miss :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Contrary to wishful thinking, the proposed Gang Injunction had NOTHING to do with this arrest and conviction.
Do the right-wing dittoheads here have ANY reading comprehension skills whatsoever?
John_Adams (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Hans Almgren dropped two pending cases against Ramos, one a weapons possession, and the other an allegation related to vandalism and drinking alcohol in Santa Barbara County Jail."
Why?! Pile it on, and give this loser low-life consecutive sentences! Man, I'm sick of seeing these scumbags get breaks they don't deserve!
waz (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JA-I'm beginning to think your reading comprehension skills are nil. Our collective comments addressed the fact that one of the "children" of our community is a lowlife and going to jail because he's a gang banger. Hence, why we are in favor of the Constitutionally vetted Gang Injunction that ALSO listed this loser. So much for racial profiling and taking away the rights of upstanding citizens.
Thank goodness this fine young man is already going to jail so that we can focus on the other 29 confirmed gang bangers legally noted in the soon to be approved Injunction.
No ditto head here and I don't watch Fox News, so you have to find a better reason to dismiss the normal folks that are willing to get this crud off of our streets under the law.
italiansurg (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
John_A: "Contrary to wishful thinking, the proposed Gang Injunction had NOTHING to do with this arrest and conviction."
Hey, Captain Obvious, NOBODY said it did, as you seem to imply. All that was stated is that he IS 1 of the vermin named in the injunction.
Now if you're attempting in your "progressively" limited capacity to misconstrue what I said to mean what you think, por favor amigo, read it again. Here's what I said:
"The BEST thing is the injunction isn't even needed for slimers like this since they'll do something ridiculous during their tenure in "da hood."
But the injunction will make it WAY easier to put em' up @ Hotel Graybar."
Where in that statement does it say the injunction did it's job? Better yet is the fact that the injunction isn't even in place yet.
What got this gang scumabg nailed IS the fact that he's a gang scumbag, no injunction required, just pure & simple criminal behavior on his behalf & the fact that he can't seem to stay away from the thug life.
So there Johnny_A, hope that clarifies your "progressive" lack of understanding the obvious.
If anybody is lacking "ANY reading comprehension skills whatsoever" it's that guy you see in the mirror when you look in it. Onward & upward! :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hank: "BAM! Snag em' bag em' that's how the injunction should work. Good job SBPD, all things recent considered."
John_Adams: "Contrary to wishful thinking, the proposed Gang Injunction had NOTHING to do with this arrest and conviction."
Hank: "Hey, Captain Obvious, NOBODY said it did, as you seem to imply."
Please review the 9th commandment, Henry.
God (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh God, you calling me a liar? Again, you're slipping in your age, imagining stuff up again. Since when did God become a "progressive"?
So please, get back to Mt. Sinai or Mt. Ararat & do some miracles for a change.
WAIT A MINUTE! Altering & misconstruing somebody's words to suit a "progressive" agenda IS a miracle. well, to the "progressives" anyways.
By the way, isn't what YOU'RE implying akin to lying? Bad God, BAD GOD! :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This isn't about race, it's about economics.
The U.S. has long expected that it can mass-import the poorest and least-educated people of a neighboring country which we all know is a political dystopia, ensure they don't assimilate by giving them everything in their language, and not have catastrophic results.
The chickens have come home to roost. The immoral, myopic and inconsistent enforcement of U.S. immigration policy and the attendant damage done by vested business interests mixed with multiculturalist idealism have created a situation where the fastest growing demographic is of low-skilled undereducated people who are displacing a once educated populace. End result: Poverty, crime, overcrowding, and a Silent Majority who get so fed up with failing schools, gang culture, and overcrowding that they react with this gang injunction which will not solve the problem because our culture does not strike at the root.
David Cash of course fails to even mention the word "discipline". Even when I went to the then almost lily-white La Colina back in the '70's I could see the mainly white middle-class kids acting up and causing trouble thanks to "progressive" policies which sought to do away with the old ways that worked. I had transferred out here from a Catholic school in Chicago where there were no bully/gang problems because unlike today's kids, they knew there would be consequences.
Fast forward to 2011: We have feral kids growing up in homes where A: Education is often not encouraged, and B: Mom and Dad are working all day so there is little discipline, quality time, or supervision all the while we're packing ten pounds of sand into the proverbial five-pound bag.
The people on the right cheer the gang injunction and while I make no apologies for sharing their disdain for the blame-it-all-on-racism attitude of PUEBLO, the gang injunction will only make things worse because it's a palliative approach. People on the left think it's all about "creating jobs" when in fact it's about attitudes toward education.
Mexico and the U.S. are analogous to two ships at sea: The one ship is relatively well-run while the other is sinking because the captain and crew won't fix the leaks in the bottom of the ship and they don't care that the people on the bottom are jumping ship, risking their lives by swimming across shark-infested waters to get on the other ship. Meanwhile, the other ship is sinking under the weight of all the refugees. So what is the humane approach?...fix the leaks in the ship that's sinking.
Sadly, partisan rhetoric on both sides ensures this situation will only get worse.
Instead of getting distracted by "gang injuctions" or "hate crimes" or special circumstances, let's remember that doing violence is against the law and let's start enforcing the laws that are already on the books.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
November 15, 2011 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, there's some really tough internet guys who read the Indy. I promise to be good if you don't dump your pile of arrogance and smugness all over me.
SezMe (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 1:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You're not telling the truth again, SezMe. You will never keep that promise.
italiansurg (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 6:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Contrary to wishful thinking, the proposed Gang Injunction had NOTHING to do with this arrest and conviction."
- John_Adams
Nobody ever said it did. I believe it is YOU who needs to work on YOUR reading comprehension skills. You lefties like to see things that aren't really there, i.e., gangs not really being a problem in Santa Barbara.
waz (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"BAM! Snag em' bag em' that's how the injunction SHOULD work. Good job SBPD, all things recent considered."
- hank
"Please review the 9th commandment, Henry."
- God
Hey God! No disrespect, but you too, might want to work on your reading comprehension. Look again at hank's use of the word "should". That's the clue. Again, you lefties like to see things that aren't really there.
waz (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
@ billclausen, your right on with your analogy and suggestions of recourse, too bad those that need to hear them won't and as many have said, "The Beat goes ON".
dou4now (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't see how the gang injunction is solving the fundamental problems that cause this type of violence in our society, but I guess if you want to delude yourselves by finding happiness in the tragedy of the lives of others that is your decision.
loonpt (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Sezie, no tough guy here, just a realist, something "progressives" wish they could be.
Sorry you feel bad for your lack of reading comprehension skills. Keep working on it, it'll eventually come to you :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I find solace in the fact that we are using legal means of locking up every violent predator in our society. I'm not trying to solve the equation with this solution, just take care of the by-product while the genius thinkers solve the entire problem.
The left told us they had the solution, and now that it's worse they can only state "we haven't done enough" with zero metrics for success.
The right tells us to lock everyone up for perpetuity which is equally stupid.
I just want to use all legal means in the interim to make us normal folks a little more safe. I think that the IRS and sobriety check points should both be unconstitutional. Unfortunately, the Robes ruled differently and I'm pretty comfortable living with a few rules that don't meet my meager opinion about interpreting the Constitution. Amazing that almost every Progressive seems to think they're a Constitutional Scholar and have definitive legal opinions about what they disagree with.
italiansurg (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Amazing that almost every Progressive seems to think they're a Constitutional Scholar and have definitive legal opinions about what they disagree with."
-- italiansurg
That's funny. Show me some regressive in this thread alone who has exhibited anything other than narrow minded thinking. You, hank, waz all have "lefties" as the one and only culprit for SB gang woes. You're the pot calling the kettle black.
SezMe (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Suzie: "Show me some regressive in this thread alone who has exhibited anything other than narrow minded thinking."
Look in the mirror lately? :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So if you want violent thugs, gangbangers and other repeat criminals locked up and off our streets, you are really just "finding happiness in the tragedy of the lives of others" according to what I read above? Amazing.
Scooter (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Happiness?
It is certainly better to find and apprehend criminals. Is that the definition of happiness?
I'd be pleased if more thugs were in jail and NOT committing crimes against decent people and creating tragedy in THEIR lives.
Progressives claim that legal Gang Injunctions are not Constitutional. The law states differently.
Progressives claim that Gang Injunctions are illegal because they are "racial profiling". The law states differently.
Progressives call themselves just that, I did not invent the moniker. Now because we disagree and separate social programs from arresting bangers we're regressives?
So be it. "I regressively stand for legally finding and arresting people that commit criminal acts and incarcerating them to the fullest extent of the law". I can easily live with that...so can most hard working law abiding Americans of all races, creeds, and colors...
italiansurg (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Seeing thugs get locked up makes me happy :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 16, 2011 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"I don't see how the gang injunction is solving the fundamental problems that cause this type of violence in our society, but I guess if you want to delude yourselves by finding happiness in the tragedy of the lives of others that is your decision."
- loonpt
The only reason that these low-life little gangsters have "tragic" lives is because they choose to have "tragic" lives. To think otherwise is to "delude yourself". The gang injunction will be there to help clean up the mess that was made by the bad choices the gangsters made. These little scumbags are responsible for their own lives. I know responsibilty is a "mean" word to use around you lefties. If you want to go out and play social worker, go right ahead. However, this is not social work. It's law enforcement. And, yes. Seeing these little morons getting put away makes me absolutely giddy.
waz (anonymous profile)
November 17, 2011 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"You, hank, waz all have "lefties" as the one and only culprit for SB gang woes."
- SezMe
I'm not saying that you lefties are the one and only problem, but you sure are a large part of it. It's lefties that oppose this injunction. It's lefties that don't want the police to give gangsters a hard time. It's lefties that don't want to lock up these little scumbags. It's lefties that think if you can just talk to these little animals (no offense to animals), and give them a place where they can play basketball and ping-pong, they'll stop being scumbags. In short, it's lefties that hamstring every effort to clean the streets of these little creeps, and in so doing, make life easier for them.
waz (anonymous profile)
November 17, 2011 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
NEWSFLASH! According to reports on KEYT & the Daily Sound, our featured homie Marcos got popped for possesion of 4.5 grams of heroin, some oxycontin & pot IN JAIL! This guy obviously doesn't want to stay out of trouble, even behind bars. So much for "rehabilitation" eh?
Of course, when you got gang letters tatted on your chin, would you really give a crap? Most of them (homies) don't :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 17, 2011 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How many fingers up, Hank?
billclausen (anonymous profile)
November 18, 2011 at 2:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
1 FINGER UP HOMIE! :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
November 18, 2011 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
@BillClausen, I love your analogy, it is well articulated and it makes the most sense to anyone who has a basic understanding of the justice system in place, cultural ethos, and economic ramifications that Latino gangs factor into. What most people dont understand is that being a "Homie" is Not illegal, acting like a fool and commiting crimes is a problem that knows no boundaries in terms of ethnicity, and it is not justifiable. The fact that Homies stand out due to the nature of their cultural ideologies is a different story. Only if you had an avatar that could convey your message to these homies, a homie whisperer if you will (little sarcarsm here) but in reality, yes, I do believe education is the way to go, the key part I think, it comes down to the educator, someone that can speak the language of the homie. I believe everyone desrves a second chance in life, Ignorance is the root of misfortune my friends.
eddie77 (anonymous profile)
November 23, 2011 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I do believe education is the way to go, the key part I think, it comes down to the educator, someone that can speak the language of the homie."
- eddie77
No. The homies need to speak the language ot the productive member of society. Education is the way to go, but they are too lazy to go out and get an education. Why show up to class at 8 a.m. everyday, when you can sleep until noon, hang out in front of Pennywise Market all day, and cause trouble all night. I can't count the number of government giveaways, paid for by me, that are strictly for minorities (whitey need not apply, because supposedly you can pay for it all yourself). However, the problem is that you actually have to get up off of your lazy behind, and fill out the paperwork. I challenge you to grab an arm load of applications for the many tax funded programs that exist, go to Pennywise Market (where you'll find plenty of homies milling about), and hand them all some applications. What do you think they'd do? I can already tell you, and you already know, so you probably don't have to bother.
waz (anonymous profile)
November 23, 2011 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
you would never know looking at Marcos but there was a time before he was caught up in "this life" that he was a different person.... living near the beach he was a natural talent on a skate board but even better he was one of the most natural most talented surfers I have ever seen. ( I come from the islands and have been surrounded my whole life by pros and soul surfers) Marcos could have won anyone of the pros out there now. He was amazing.
To an old friend... I wish you could go back and take a different turn in your life... but even still I have some amazing memories of you in the water smiling, laughing and at peace.
8052013 (anonymous profile)
January 3, 2013 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)