These are difficult times for anyone on a budget. It is time to appreciate the people and things we hold close to our hearts. For me and many others, Santa Barbara's Adult Education program is one of those.
The wall of the Schott Center, just outside the office of the new dean, shows the clear intention of past supporters. Contributors to the funding of the Schott Center placed commemorative tiles here to "honor and remember" the ongoing experience of music, history, cooking, sculpting, ceramics, creating, inspiring, calligraphy, watercolor, photography, painting, poetry, art, movies, and more. This is the clear testimony from grateful students and classmates.
Recently, the Santa Barbara Community College Board of Trustees hired two new administrators. The new Continuing Education vice president and new dean arrived in Santa Barbara fewer than six months and two months ago, respectively. And the first mark they made in their new town was to axe approximately 100 classes out of Adult Ed.
The second thing they did was issue a call to hire more administrators: The two additional positions are advertised with salaries of $101,124 each, plus full "health and welfare benefits" (see advertisement at jobs.sbcc.edu). The programs advertised as the new Adult Ed focus are "Adult High School, Adult Basic Education (e.g. ESL), GED Instruction, Inmate Education, Vocational Technical programs, and Medical Career Development."
If you voted in support of SBCC's recent multimillion-dollar bond item, is this what you expected for Adult Ed? By a generous majority, Santa Barbara recently voted to fund improvements to SBCC. I am often conservative when it comes to taking on civic debt, but I voted in favor of SBCC's initiative. Throughout the years, the college has earned my trust and support as both a parent and a "lifelong learner.”
The Schott Center, I know, is the heart and soul of Adult Ed, and the donor wall that celebrates art and music is the concrete promise of Adult Ed to Santa Barbara. Today, besides the 100 courses that have already been cut, 100 more are on the chopping block.
What can be done?
• Recall the new vice president and new dean of SBCC Adult Ed.
• Freeze hiring of new positions: SBCC should not be spending more than $200,000 annually to fatten the administration when it is slashing some 200 classes and thousands of students.
• Convene a stakeholders’ committee to review class offerings in light of budget shortfalls.
• Put the high school diploma (GED) program into the high schools, especially La Cuesta, where existing programs and teaching talent already are in place.
• Urge the administration to explore other funding options to retain classes. Programs that are cut today are hard to reinstate later. This is most apparent when classes requiring a specific room set-up are cut. The Wake Center, which TK, has a well-developed facility with rooms specifically equipped for classes ranging from culinary skills to craft classes for the elderly. This equipment should be maintained, not mothballed.
What else can you do?
Hold on to your pocketbook. When you get the Annual Giving appeal from SBCC, send in a letter of no confidence regarding the new vice president and new dean for SBCC Adult Ed. Give your money to other worthy Santa Barbara nonprofits (they need it more than ever in these difficult times).
Please attend a public meeting in the Schott Center Auditorium on Tuesday, October 27, from 5:30-7:30 p.m. If you cannot come, send a letter. Just a handwritten note, sent along with a friend who is able to attend, will let the administration know your thoughts.
Our time is short in this world. As one writing teacher said, "Creative writing is one of the last remaining places where your life really matters.” This is true of every person, in every room of the Schott Center, every day.
Charmaine Jacobs is a civic activist and lifelong learner.
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Perhaps my own lack of formal education precludes my ability to properly understand what I've just read but let me see if I have this straight: Money ostensibly spent on education is going into the pockets of bureaucrats to the tune of six figures apiece while the people at the front lines lose jobs and the community-at-large loses the resource of learning. Is that right?
Sarcasm aside, I'm not shocked that this is happening because for a long time I've watched an endless supply of $$$ approved via bond measures not getting to where it is intended. We keep hearing about how the schools are out of money and need more and more of it but for some reason after the funds are spent the teachers are having to dig into their own pockets in order to buy basic supplies while the administrators do their photo-ops while drawing much higher figures than those who are doing the actual teaching.
The problem is that as a society we have placed "education" on such a pedestal that we have lost track of the fact that those who do the teaching are lost in the shuffle of the requisite political posturing which occurs when so much money is involved. As such, fiscal accountability goes out the window and the situation which Ms. Jacobs describes is what results.
Perhaps the underlying problem is that older folks come from a generation where honor is paramount and as such they would not expect such blatant behavior to occur, while younger people are so worn out just trying to pay the rent that they don't have the energy to get involved in making people accountable for their behavior and as such the actions pointed out in this article are allowed to happen and those responsible carry on with impunity.
Again, what am I missing here?...the author appears to have exposed immoral actions by people who for too long have been entrusted by our community to the hitherto irreproachable status of their positions.
Supporting education should be just that--and not creating a womb-to-tomb Gravy Train for six-figured pencil pushers.
Support our teachers: Stand up to the cabal of bureaucracy.
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billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 2:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Amen to that Bill. Too bad that this problem isn't taking place in small places like Santa Barbara, but all over the country in small and big cities alike. The older generations are running out of steam and the younger generations have become so detached that they don't believe in the system anymore. I guess its time to grow a backbone and not let these people take away from us anymore.
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AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This situation is abhorrent and should not be accepted. Why do so many administrators need to be hired for a program that has run wonderfully for decades? I am sure there are many retired professionals who would volunteer or perform at a much lower rate of pay with no benefits required, to do many admin tasks. The focus on GED, ESL should not force out the valuable programs that have been available to older adults. These programs provide improvements and stability to good mental and physical health as well as providing the social environment so important to living a fulfilling life. I am sure many, many of the adult ed participants have donated funds to support the programs. I know I have, and I am deeply disturbed by this news.
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disindependent (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks billclausen...you always get it right!
WTF!
I am a freshman at CC this year because of the confidence I gained at Adult Ed.
My sister always said I was stupid...too stupid for school...not teachable. It took me decades to get over my fear of school. But I did. This is just an insanely un-principled move. Right now...with all the economic shape shifting ,we desperately need places to go and find our true purpose,our passion,our path.
How did this happen without any real warning?
What can we do to stop further cuts and bring back programs?
This just breaks my heart.
My last writing class had over 35 people in it.
All ages.all ethnicities,all classes...all learning...all together...it was a brilliant experience...life changing.
How can we help?
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emenzies (Elizabeth Menzies)
October 22, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just a reminder that many wonderful Adult Ed classes have been offered over the years at the Wake Center on Turnpike also...
This is TOO distressing...bring bullhorns on 10/27!!!
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Akimbo (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"My sister always said I was stupid...too stupid for school...not teachable."
No, you were not "stupid", what it is (and I thought of mentioning this in my post) is that you, like myself, didn't do well in *conventional* academic settings. I was a A.D.D. case back in the late '60's long before it was talked about in a mainstream sense. I was a D-average student who only got a high school diploma by passing the High School Proficiency test.
There are many more people out there such as ourselves than one would realize, which is yet another reason why we need these programs but sadly in a city which is filled to the brim with wealth somehow the most needed priorities are on the chopping block.
As to your question "how can we help?" all I can say is that we need to make these people accountable for their actions and I think Charmaine Jacobs is the perfect person to lead the cause so let's get behind her and give her our support.
Needless to say, Jacobs or anyone else are welcome to present what I wrote at the meeting that is taking place.
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billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A clarification: no Measure V bond money is used for salaries - EVER - it is against the law. The 2 positions are replacing 3 positions that were vacated. I tell you this so you go to the meeting better informed. At the meeting, ask why there haven't been steps taken before this to change some of the classes to having a fee instead of just cutting classes? Ask why they cut some of the most poplular sections, sections that were added years ago because the subject was so popular, instead of shortening the number of weeks? (They will be shortening the term for some classes in the winter instead of cutting classes, which is a more equitable solution.) Ask if they involved the instructors in any of their decision-making? Ask if they have shortened office hours or close early on Fridays (a notoriously slow day at Adult Ed) to save money? I cannot ask these questions due to my affiliation with SBCC, so someone, please, hold their feet to the fire. And BTW, the sky is not falling for SBCC. Don't believe them if they try to make the budget situation sound ominous. SBCC does need to be fiscally responsible, but it is in a better position than most other campuses in California. And Adult Ed shouldn't have to take the majority of the burden on it's shoulders.
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whatsername (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ms Jacobs is dead on.
I can't claim to have any expertise in the matter of education staffing and salaries. But I do have a great deal of experience involving product management with the goal being to expand a mission – all within a shrinking budget with increasing competition. Free market techniques work time and time again. The primary problem here is that there are no incentives/restrictions. There never seem to be in any government run arena.
No incentives for the bureaucrats to maintain the current product, no restrictions placed on admin expansion, no innovative thinking other than how to protect jobs through the expansion of a bureaucracy.
What exactly is the rationale for hiring additional administrators when you are degrading your product? Are there any performance benchmarks within these administrators pay packages? If not...why not? Have you formed a relationship committee that brings in your consumers to get their input? I think not.
I fully support Ms. Jacobs ideas. They are succinct, and lucid. I guarantee you they scare the heck out of these people. Every idea Ms. Jacobs described is exactly what needs to happen. Freeze all hiring, tie performance to incentives (perhaps too late with this since the newest bureaucrats seem to have contracts in place). But if they have the money to hire additional staff...those funds can be used in an aggressive incentive pool - NOT in hiring more admin.
Also create a S.C.O.R.E. type of advisory group that draws its talent from the pool of Adult Ed consumers. Daniel Petry
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jcrdan (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2009 at 10:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ms Jacobs said: "Recall the new vice president and new dean of SBCC Adult Ed."
To be fair, these 2 positions came in at a very stressful time and under the current direction of the president of SBCC. Dr. Serban chose the new VP and is her director. The new Dean, who is not from SB, has been onboard just over a few months, and, of course, is under the the direction of the VP. He seems to be the least culpable right now. When the previous VP and president were reigning, they had a great understanding of what Adult Ed was all about. Even though there was some housecleaning that should have been done prior to this past couple of years, that administration participated in shared decison making, and some autonomy was respected and encouraged for Adult Ed. The question is, does the new VP have the backbone to stand up for Adult Ed even when it may confict with her supervisors' opinion? Or perhaps, to give the benefit fo the doubt to the VP and Prez, they just need a little "Adult Education."
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whatsername (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sam Wake is probably rolling over in his grave.
I recall when Jerry Brown attempted to halt all Adult Education, stating that classes in underwater basket weaving were not necessary.
I recall the elderly rising to the occasion and asking, "Would you rather be paying for our presence in homes for the elderly or having us remain healthy and involved in the community."
I don't know where he came up with the funds to keep the program going but I do know the tremendous contribution Adult Education is to the community.
Thank you Sam Wake wherever you are.
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oldman84 (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So they've removed the "adult" and are now poised to extract the "education."
Why is it the diagnostic cure of "fiscal responsibility" nearly always worse than the actual illness.
I'll be there!
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Draxor (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No administrator should make more than a teacher period.
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Georgy (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sadly Charmaine Jacobs has not checked her facts and is being overly emotional as she has allowed her self-interests to interfere. Inticing a mob with doom & gloom into a witchhunt takes away from the serious fiscal crisis that the college and Adult Education is faced with.
No one has removed the "adult." No one is poised to extract the "education."
Yes, thank you Sam Wake. More should be ready to follow in his example.
Whatsername, you are mostly right.
jcrdan, how can you say Ms. Jacobs is dead on when you can't claim any expertise?
Mr. Clausen, you have missed it by a mile and your sarcasm didn't help. Please check the facts.
Wouldn't it be nice to see activists work for causes that help the poor and homeless, stand up against fraud and excess spending by government and put their focus on other social issues rather than self-interests?
I have been in education for over thirty years. This is not the time to riot. This is the time to get the facts, have confidence in the college and bring positive and helpful suggestions to the table. That's what is necessary during this economic downturn.
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gregb (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As I understand it, both the VP and Dean's positions at the SBCC Adult Education Program are not new; they are positions that were recently filled due to retirements or vacancies. Where one of the shams at SBCC occurred was when a Dean from the main campus was moved to the Adult Ed VP after Linda Fairly retired and he served a very short tenure. His retirement benefits increased significantly as a result.
I also agree with many of the writers that too many resources (human and financial) are allocated to administration across the board in public education rather than to teaching and the classroom, where the educational process occurs. Nowhere is this more apparent than costs of the professional administrative staff requred to design survey instruments, gather, slice, dice, and report on "accountability" in K-12.
That said, the California budget is in a free fall and it is fair for adults to pay a fee for Adult Education classes such as yoga, sewing, art, furniture refinishing, caligraphy, etc. and that they are self-supporting. These programs directly complete with private businesses and I'd much rather see my tax dollars go into the development of essential skills and K-12 than quasi-entertainment of people who really can afford it.
As for SBCC, they will never receive another cent from me during their fund raisers and I will always vote "no" on their bond issues because of the dysfunction that exists within its administration and the fat cats slurping at the public trough.
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gsjoh (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So what are the facts, Georgy, if you claim to know. You didn't state them. Ms Jacobs stated some things that I didn't know about, can you offer a specific rebuttal to that? All you did was castigate the writers, and say that you've been in education for over 30 years. Perhaps you can enlighten us who are not in education.
Why don't they charge for the classes? I'd be willing to pay for them for all the value that I've been given by them over the years? I'd rather pay for the classes than pay for some $100 k a year administrator's salary and benefits in these "tough fiscal times."
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nelsonjazz (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Nelsonjazz and others: the state (our tax money) funds certain types of classes and SBCC Adult Ed has capitalized on that over the years. If the state funds a class, Adult Ed cannot charge anything for it except a materials fee when appropriate. When the class doesn't fit into a state funded category, there is a charge per hour prepaid for the term.
Adult Ed has, on the one hand, done a great service to it's seniors who tend to live on fixed incomes by offering so many classes free, ie, state funded for that age group. On the other hand, some classes that are being categorized as "older adult" should not be classifed under that grouping and it's costing the state money to fund them. That history is catching up to us now. If someone wants to learn to play the ukelele, let them pay for it. If someone wants to become a painter, they can take classes at the credit division or pay for it at Adult Ed. Keep the truly senior/older adult classes state funded but require that they are taught to that age group.
SBCC Adult Ed is still a wonderful program and will continue to be one of the best in the country, IF it is managed well during this financial crisis, which includes management listening to it's 'constituents'. I agree with gregb in that it is a time to "bring positive and helpful suggestions to the table." Creative solutions are plentiful for those willing to do the work.
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whatsername (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2009 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Sadly Charmaine Jacobs has not checked her facts and is being overly emotional as she has allowed her self-interests to interfere. Inticing a mob with doom & gloom into a witchhunt "
"Mr. Clausen, you have missed it by a mile and your sarcasm didn't help. Please check the facts."
Gregb: If your two above posts are accurate, then you should direct your criticizm toward the staff at The Independent for posting such lies. I have always considered The Independent to be a credible source of reporting, but according to what you post, I have been fooled by them. If what you say is true, than you should call upon The Independent to retract this story at once.
"Wouldn't it be nice to see activists work for causes that help the poor and homeless, stand up against fraud and excess spending by government and put their focus on other social issues rather than self-interests?"
gregb: Yes it would be nice, but it is not relevant to the story here and distracts from the subject at hand.
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billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 2:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Before anyone breaks out the long ropes, may I remind you this is a citizen Opinion piece, not an Independent staff story.
This 'breadcrumb' at the top of the column is the indicator:
>> Opinion >> Voices
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webadmin (Indy Staff)
October 24, 2009 at 7:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know who Ms Jacobs is or if she works for the Indie, but she does have many facts wrong. The third, fourth, fifth & sixth paragraphs are inaccurate and misleading. Most of the inaccuracies have been addressed by whatsername and a bit by gregb. Adult High School, Adult Basic Education, GED Instruction and Vocational education have always been a part of the mission of Continuing Education. They help bring about a better society and community by helping those adults who need to continue/improve their education and can't afford the traditional routes. HOWEVER, I do agree with Ms Jacobs general message that the community needs to ask good questions and ask for transparency with the decision-making process. Since the new VP came in about 10 months ago, decisions have been 'top-down' from SBCC. This was not the management style that was traditional for Adult Ed. Some fairly quick decisions had to be made during the initial stages of the budget crisis, so perhaps top-down looked to be the best way to manage at that time. Whatever the reason, the outcome suggests ineptitude and a lack of understanding on the part of the leaders at SBCC/CE. So I understand the distress Ms Jacobs feels at some of the decisions. If she had her facts straight her 5 bullet points for action might carry some weight. As it is, I only completely agree with the last one and empathize with the sentiments on the others.
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1wahine (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
" I don't know who Ms Jacobs is or if she works for the Indie" --1wahine
As I stated in the comment above yours, Charmaine Jacobs does not work for the Independent.
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webadmin (Indy Staff)
October 24, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks, Indy, I didn't see the post until after I submitted my comment. I really didn't think she was a staff person; that was more to address others' comments.
BTW, I sure hope the Indy and other news organizations come to the meeting Tuesday.
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1wahine (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ms Jacobs vociferously objects to SBCC Adult Ed cutting classes in "cooking, sculpting, ceramics, ...calligraphy, watercolor, photography, painting, poetry, art, movies" because it is refocusing its efforts on "Adult High School, Adult Basic Education (e.g. ESL), GED Instruction, Inmate Education, Vocational Technical programs, and Medical Career Development."
Someone needs to get their priorities straightened out.
I find it to be the height of hubris and the epitome of the misplaced sense of privilege and outrageous entitlement that has taken over our city for the Ivy League educated Mrs. Jacobs, wife of $500/hr pro fact cat "develop everything in sight" lawyer Chris Jacobs of Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck--yes that is who SB Planning Commisioner Mrs. Jacobs is maried to, to call for pitchforks and torches and to tar and feather SBCC administrators because she can't get her free watercolor class after SBCC has decided to offer more opportunities to struggling undereducated less fortunate members of our, yes OUR community.
You should be ashamed of yourself Mrs. Jacobs.
You say these are "difficult times for anyone on a budget." Then all the more reason for all of us to be extermely proud that SBCC has taken a stand and offered educational opportunities to those among us that are less fortunate. We are simple people who are trying to rise above our circumstances by getting a high school degree, by improving our English skills, by trying to reintegrate back into society after serving our time for a crime we have taken responsibility for, by learning a trade because we aren't rich enough or connected enough to go to an Ivy League school or be a high priced lawyer, or by choosing to learn to be a nurse's aid.
You, with all the privilege and education and connections and power one could ever want, are upset because SBCC has decided to focus on us folks who have none of that? How dare you.
Have you ever paid for your art classes? Have you ever volunteered to be an adult literacy tutor? Have you ever mentored a recovering resident of Casa Serena?
The world can be divided into two classes of people Mrs. Jacobs -- givers and takers -- you have publicly shown us which one you are. Shame on you.
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onkyo607 (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And shame on you, Onkyo607, for the personal attack on Charmaine Jacobs who gives back to this community tenfold with her service on the city planning commission. (And, no, I don't know her personally.) I do wonder what you have given back to this community?
We taxpayers pay for the public schools. It seems to me that's where English language learning, high school level courses and GED should be. I am glad that it is _also_ at SB community college --- please note the word, "community". A community includes not just the have-nots but the haves --- I know that is surely going to be an unpopular statement to think that not only those unfortunate should receive some consideration.
A community is one with arts as well as crafts, recreational as well as vocational - that's an education. I have benefited from the arts and computer classes at SB CC adult ed. It is dismaying to think that others can not benefit as I. Seems to me that there should be room for all, and that SBCC adult ed should be self-supporting or at least people given the option to make it self-supporting, fees for classes, as is so at the main SBCC campus, with scholarship possibilities for those who can not afford to pay.
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citti (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dear Citti--I completely agree with you that a well rounded community benefits all--that no one should be excluded--least of all the have-nots---but that is not what Mrs. Jacobs is advocating,
What a great place it would be if all of our wishes could be met . But in these "difficlut budgetary times" priorities have to be set and if that means less painting and pottery classes so that basic education for the ADULT population needs can be met, then so be it. We are not talking about school age children-we are talking about ADULTS who did not get the basic education that is an absolute necessity in the world we live in.
I have much greater empathy for a struggling ADULT non-English speaker who is trying to improve their lot in life by taking an ESL class than I do for a pampered lawyer's wife whining about no free art classes. Free water color classes when we cannot even pay for basic K-12 classroom teachers? Get real.
As for what Mrs. Jacobs has given back to our community by her service on the Planning Commision, look up her record on affordable workforce housing. Her votes on that subject alone say it all. SB is not only for the "haves" -- it is OUR community, every one of us, rich and poor, the educated and those trying to get educated.
And in reply to your personal question of what I give back to our community, in my 35+ years here in SB I have worked at four non-profits, I have taught in our schools and in accordance with my beliefs, I have tithed at least 12% of my earnings every year back to local groups like the FoodBank, New House, Jodi House and ARC. I am not some carpet bagging limousine jane-come lately---I know of what I speak.
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onkyo607 (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There is still no need too take out the boxing gloves, but the passion on both sides can be turned into a positive synergy of better understanding and collaboration. It is very important to get the facts straight.
All of the changes that are happening are a result of the budget free fall in Sacramento. The directives to tighten the belt came from the college and were not blind decision making actions by newly hired administrators. The tightening of the belt was done across the board and many classes and certain sections of classes were canceled in order to balance an ever-shrinking budget. A number of ESL and GED classes or sections were also cancelled. All departments were asked to cut expenditures and to find ways to save.
Two classes that I was looking forward to attending got cancelled so I looked and found another. I do hope they will be offered next term and I will be sure to sign up early to be counted. The cancellation of certain classes or section does not mean it is a program cut. There is a big difference. Many classes that were cancelled had low attendance the previous terms and having several sections in certain classes was inneficient. Larger attendance in fewer classes meant that programs would not need to be cut.
As a matter of policy, classes with low attendance after the term starts are always in danger of being cancelled and if numbers don't increase, they are cancelled but then brought back in the future to try again.
I believe that all of the concerns that community members bring to the meeting will be addressed. Coming to the meeting with an open mind is better than choosing sides beforehand.
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gregb (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2009 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you, gregb, and thank you, Onkyo607.
gregb, sounds as though you're part of the administration or Board. If so, I hope that you will take from this a realization of how poorly the SBCC has worked with the community, in informing of and being inclusive of the choices that are being made. The new administrators’ salaries are extraordinarily offensive, if it's correct. Surely, there are people in this community who can do the work for much less money. Public money!
How the administration has dealt with the SB public is modeled by its new computer enrollment system. Shamefully. This is not some private college run by a board of trustees, but a community college with an outreach for adults, although all of city college students are, in fact, adults. Treat people like adults, informing of the needs and the choices and asking for input, then the response will be more respectful and there will be willingness to work together.
I appreciate your comments about attendance in classes. Seems to me (and I hate to say it) that if the classes cost there would be a better continuing attendance. It is hard not to choose sides when in fact one of the sides has shown itself by class eliminations, continuing incompetent computer system, no outreach and explanation to the community - and the other side, if you will, are those of us who've benefited from and participated in adult ed classes of varying sorts. I know which side I'm on in that picture.
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citti (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(continuing)
And, Onkyo607, I respect the volunteer and paid, I assume, work you've done with non-profits. (I, too, have done similarly.) However, because you disagree with Jacobs - and I haven't always agreed with her votes but don't think things are as black and white as you, apparently, do - gives no license to trash on the basis of her spouse and that makes it easy to dismiss what you write.
I continue to think that most of the schools sit empty so much of the time; why aren't these classrooms more used for adult/GED education. Yes, indeed, respect for adult English-language-learning efforts and I like that SBCC reaches out to help (and have at times helped as a teacher.) The students there are like many other SBCC students: some motivated, some not, just wanting a place to be --- and that's okay.
You seem to overlook that for many painting and pottery, which you seem to scorn, are not only ways to earn some needed income, but ways to keep alive emotionally and intellectually. Maybe it's the word "enrichment" that's at fault when in reality these art classes can be salvation.
I don't think there is any relation between free watercolor classes, as you put it, and K-12 funding. I have no children, yet I have paid through my taxes for years and years for others' children considerably more than I ever cost the system in my own schooling. And I've done it willingly, knowing we all benefit from a literate society. However, I expect there to be also some regard for my needs and wants; adult ed has been that regard.
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citti (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
To Citti and Gregb--
First a thanks to gregb for his "voice of reason" approach to what is indeed a very passionate subject. Balancing the various constituencies is always a challenge and finding a middle path is preferred if at all possible. That both the arts and the voc/ESL/GED programs were subject to the cuts is evidence of an attempt by SBCC to be even handed. This action should be respected and honored by all involved.
And to citti, I will reiterate my prior post that I do agree with you. I do sincerely believe a well balanced community is the ultimate goal. Arts and trades, performers and concrete pourers, seniors wanting to expand their creativity and middle age non-english speakers who want a better life for their families through GED's and ESL, all need a place at our tables and in our communities.
And if Mrs. Jacobs' opinion piece had limited itself to being a call to participate, a call to be aware of the situation, a call to seek even handed discussion of how this impacts the entire community, I wouldn't be writing this.
But where Mrs. Jacobs' train left the tracks was her intentional juxtaposition of "new Adult Ed focus are "Adult High School, Adult Basic Education (e.g. ESL), GED Instruction, Inmate Education, Vocational Technical programs, and Medical Career Development." versus Mrs. Jacobs reverence for "music, history, cooking, sculpting, ceramics, creating, inspiring, calligraphy, watercolor, photography, painting, poetry, art, movies, and more."
This is nothing more and nothing less than a "classist" and elitist criticism of the SBCC Board because it chose to move towards a greater focus on the underserved and undereducated members of our community and away from free art classes for those with the leisure time to pursue them.
And that is where Mrs. Jacobs socio-economic circumstances and her voting record as a Planning Commissioner become relevant. Mrs. Jacobs' opinion piece does not exist in a vacuum. We are entitled to be made aware of what her circumstances are so that we can fully evaluate her opinion and the basis for it and the possible motivations behind it.
If only Mrs. Jacobs had left out her criticism of the new focus of the program being for GED/ESL/inmates/voc. But she didn't. And one certainly has to quesiton why. Because it most assuredly is consistent with a bias that is evident from her socio-economic circumstances and her votes as a Planning Commissioner.
Having said all that, surely we can find a way to keep all facets of the programs alive and viable, keeping in mind that the least among us surely deserve the best from the most privileged among us.
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onkyo607 (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2009 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Citti, thanks. I appreciate your comments. Actually I am neither an administrator nor a board member, but I have worked for Adult Education for many years and I also consider myself a life-long learner. Any cuts that are made affect me on both sides too. I spoke up as wrong assumptions were being made and people didn't have the facts. The outreach to the community has begun and the college must make sure that it does reach the entire community.
One final comment, we have had many problems with the new registration system, however, when finally working properly, we will see its many benefits.
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gregb (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This “opinion” piece is written so inaccurately and with the only purpose of enraging the community. This is the real shame. We all know that SBCC is an amazing community college (Main Campus, Schott and Wake) and to submit this piece without researching the facts is truly irresponsible. Some facts have been shared and here are two more:
1. No public high school (La Cuesta or any other) can accept adult learners. The only opportunity that adult learners have to complete their GED are their local community colleges. This is a state mandate and nothing new.
2. The “new” director position is a rehire of a director that retired at the end of May and was in her position for 20 some years—it has been a director position for a very long time.
I know quite a few people that work at SBCC and they share that classes are being cut all over the state (yes, even on the main SBCC campus). The anger and “daggers” that are being spewed by this “opinion” piece should be directed at our state government that is not funding SBCC appropriately.
Get your story right from the beginning next time. Our community is too small to have all kinds of lies spread. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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cgfsb (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2009 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A scholar then asked:
Could you advise me of a proper vocation, Master?
He then said:
Some men can earn their keep with the power of their minds.
Others must use their backs and hands.
This is the same in nature as it is with man.
Some animals acquire their food easily, such as rabbits, horses and elephants.
Other animals must struggle for their food, like flamingos, moles, and ants.
So you see, the nature of the vocation must fit the individual.
But I have no abilities, desires, or talents, Master, the man sobbed.
Have you thought of becoming a stockbroker? the Master queried.
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KehlogAlbran (anonymous profile)
October 26, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As far as I know, these classes are not meant only our more mature residents. I'm not old and I take adult ed classes all the time. Call me selfish, but I love taking advantage of $5 classes. I learn new skills, I meet new people and I expand my horizons. Also, usually my classes turn into hobbies and I buy materials for my new hobbies at local places...Adult Ed classes have led me to be regular patrons at local vineyards, sewing shops, restaurants and specialty grocery stores that I would not have otherwise visited. Without a doubt, Adult Ed classes make for a better community and they should stay as affordable as possible.
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YellowSnow (anonymous profile)
October 26, 2009 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This “opinion” piece is written so inaccurately and with the only purpose of enraging the community. This is the real shame. We all know that SBCC is an amazing community college (Main Campus, Schott and Wake) and to submit this piece without researching the facts is truly irresponsible.
agreed!
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easternpacific (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2009 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well put easternpacific. People have a right to opinions but such a defamation is truly a shame. hope everyone will make it to the community forum
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myopinion (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I bet SBCC has receivied an offer to purchase Schott Center to tear it down and build condominiums. This is the way for them to do that, to receive the promised millions.
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What is the annual budget for Adult Education? Surely it is less than one manager's annual salary.
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indyreader65 (anonymous profile)
October 28, 2009 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
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