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Paul Wellman

Rick Caruso (left) and Matt Middlebrook


Miramar Decision Postponed Until August 6

Despite Marathon Meeting Wednesday, Montecito Planners Still Have Questions


Thursday, July 17, 2008
By Chris Meagher (Contact)
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The Rick Caruso show, fit with the biggest public relations campaign to hit the Santa Barbara County Administration Building in quite awhile, is to be continued, after the Montecito Planning Commission delayed making any decisions on Caruso’s Miramar project to August 6.

Montecito Planning Commission listens to public comment
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Montecito Planning Commission listens to public comment

Complete with coffee and pastries to greet supporters upon arrival in the morning, as well as lunch at noon, “Miramar Now” buttons, colorful artist renderings lining the walls, and a flashy movie featuring a Frank Sinatra-like crooner singing something called “At the Beach at Miramar,” Caruso and his contingent of lawyers, planners, consultants, and interns made sure every question was answered and every need of both the commissioners and the public was met Wednesday. But the one thing he couldn’t do was convince the board to stick around long enough to make a decision Wednesday night after a nearly 11-hour hearing. Instead, after listening to presentations from Caruso, from county staff, and from more than 100 public speakers, the commissioners listed a bevy of questions they want answered by the August meeting.

And while no indication was given by the commissioners on how they might vote, and while Caruso wouldn’t speculate on any tell signs he picked up from the five, it appears Caruso will get the necessary three votes to move the project along. However, no matter the outcome, it is nearly inevitable the decision will be appealed to the Board of Supervisors, and many speculate that even their decision will end up litigated by the losers.

While the number of supporters at the meeting easily outnumbered opponents, the dissenters clamored for the commissioners to demand a full Environmental Impact Report (EIR) because full review hadn’t been done. But Ed Yates from the County Counsel’s office seemed to quell commissioners’ concerns — especially those of Michael Phillips — that necessary California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) legalities were met. While a full EIR was never done for the approved plan of former owner Ian Schrager, county staff had issued a negative declaration saying an EIR wasn't necessary. With an approved negative declaration, Caruso would only have had to prepare an EIR if he made more than minor technical changes to Schrager's plan. If there were only minor technical changes and no substantial increase in the severity of the impacts, as was the opinion of county staff, then an addendum could be done, the option chosen in this case. The question that remains of the commissioners is whether they believe the changes Caruso proposes are more than minor technical changes.

Here’s a look at some of some specifics for Shrager and Caruso’s respective takes on the Miramar.

Shrager’s:

  • Total net floor area: 137,711 sq ft.
  • Total parking spaces: 599
  • Guestrooms: 213
  • Employee dwellings: 4
  • Grading: 10,000 cubic yards of cut, 6,000 cubic yards of fill, 4,000 cubic yards of export
  • Total number of restaurant seats: 258
  • Potential number of beach and tennis club members: 140

Caruso’s

  • Total net floor area: 169,937 sq. ft.
  • Total parking spaces: 671
  • Guestrooms: 204
  • Employee dwellings: 4
  • Grading: 36,300 cubic yards of cut, 46,100 cubic yards of fill, 10,000 cubic yards of import
  • Total number of restaurant seats: 258
  • Potential number of beach and tennis club members: 300

How floor area ratios are determined, what limits are in place for the ballroom usage, and an accurate employee count are just some of the things asked of county staff by the commission.

Bob Hazard speaking in favor of Rick Caruso's Miramar project
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Bob Hazard speaking in favor of Rick Caruso's Miramar project

One of the big questions going into Wednesday’s meeting was water. In a July 11 letter to county staff, Montecito Water District (MWD) General Manager Tom Mosby reneged on an earlier letter sent to Caruso saying he was covered, despite the fresh Ordinance 89, which was designed to limit water use in the thirsty MWD. This sent Caruso’s people scurrying, and meetings on Monday with Mosby seemingly resolved the issue, although details remain vague and unknown. While Mosby said MWD wouldn’t commit to the 117 acre feet that county staff had suggested the district would be providing for the project, he also said that much wasn’t needed. “The actual water use will be much lower,” he said, with Caruso later explaining that the amount would only be needed if his hotel were 100 percent occupied 365 days a year. Mosby will be looking at similar use allocations at places like the Biltmore to reach a conclusion on how much water is needed at the Miramar. “The real goal is that they install water-efficient fixtures,” he said. “That’s what it’s all about.”

Julia Louis-Dreyfus calls for "shrinkage" of the project
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Julia Louis-Dreyfus calls for "shrinkage" of the project

The other big issue to be determined is whether the project is consistent with the Montecito Community Plan. With building height variances on several buildings, including the largest, which would tower 49 feet above ground — 14 feet above the allowable amount — and a lot of grading going on, residents and commissioners alike questioned whether county staff’s assessment that the plan was consistent with the Community Plan was accurate. Actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus and husband Brad Hall, whose property neighbors the Miramar property to the east, were on hand in opposition to Caruso’s plan, pointed out the project didn’t fit within the Community Plan and filling in the floodplain would be a mistake. Louis-Dreyfus, famous for her nine years on Seinfeld, took a line out of one of the more famous episodes of the show to emphasize her point. “This design needs shrinkage,” she said. “Please give us shrinkage, and that’s no joke.” Commissioner Claire Gottsdanker said, “Right now I don’t agree with staff’s finding it’s consistent with the community plan, but I’m willing to be convinced…I’m struggling with the size, bulk and scale, and height of the public buildings.”

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Caruso, who said he loses $1.5 million each month the project sits untouched, bought the property in January 2007 from Ty Warner with plans to quickly breeze through the process and get construction going on the site. But he altered the approved project, forcing him to take his plans back through the Montecito planning process. Warner, who bought the Miramar from Schrager, couldn’t garner the necessary support to get the project built. Schrager, whose plans were approved in 2000, ran out of money to build. “If it was easy, everyone would have done it,” Caruso said after the meeting. “If it was easy, Ty Warner would have done it. But I’m confident we’re going to get through it.” Speaking to suggestions that the project has been rushed, Caruso said, “We understand we have a process to go through. There’s no rushing going on.”

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Someone tell Julia it will all be OK?

Since I live just to the WEST of the Miramar - we can't wait for this to happen. It will be OK - just keep saying it.

Aug 6 - next big meeting and we should have this solved.

BeachLivin (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2008 at 12:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Note to BeachLivin: "Just saying it" doesn't make complex issues "OK"; your comments about "we can't wait" and "we should have this solved" really reveal the "ends justify the means" approach that this slick developer and his cocktail party-attending cheerleaders have employed. I tried to find "just keep saying it" in CEQA law, and so far have not discovered that policy.

sbsleuth99 (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amazing!!

Times have changed. Montecito-ite's are so eager for the hotel, they are willing to destroy the fabric that made Montecito a nice place to live.

The best marketing job I've ever seen by a developer. Congrats Caruso for your smooth, divide and conquer campaign. I would love to know how you paralyzed the County from reviewing this project. Bravo Caruso!!

After 40 years of living here, I've never seen a developer able to arouse so many glitter-bugs into throwing away the Montecito Community Plan with the rules that protect this town from being an over-built glitz.

Land rich, cash poor homeowners probably support this so they can squeeze some $$ out of their assumed rising property values. Oh well, no place stays nice forever. Some of us will probably just quietly move away. Aloha.

East_Fork (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is there no one in montecito area with enough money to resurrect the bones of the old Miramar? From my experience in the industry... one could completely reconstruct the property with an updated version of the old land usage. The number of keys would need to increase and obvious amenities would need to be added (pool, spa, etc.), but the overall size and scope of the project could be kept very similar to what had been there for years.
At the point, the land is probably too expensive for anyone to go that route...but it certainly would nice to see the property returned to a similar (though more modern) state of simple, yet elegant coastal-community grandeur.

jb (anonymous profile)
July 23, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, now...... the weather's finally changing. That's a fresh breeze blowing in off the ocean. Breathe it...feel it. It's time to clear the air... time to wake up. Get your green tea and spend a few minutes with this:

www.independent.com/news/2008/jul/24/big...

Grace (anonymous profile)
July 24, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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