Security at Naples Trailhead Beefs Up

Drove by these lights earlier tonight. Completely obnoxious. Naples has been *shut down* - no cars at the usual 'parking lot' across 101 earlier today.

Woe be the surfers; hey, they've only been using it for decades.

Why is it that people who have no legal right think they are above the law???

Instead of having legal owners tolerate such illegal use for a period of time, this attitude may result in legal owners fencing private land to avoid "prescriptive easements."

Rather than whining, why not be grateful that the surfers have been allowed to use someone else's land without hassle for "decades".

I thought this land had been in the public domain for decades and had only recently been purchased by the mega-developers (destroyers of all that is good) in recent years. Surfers have been using those trails to the beach for decades and because of that, actually have legal right to keep using them. Surfing, like skateboarding, is not a crime! I hate what I'm reading about the development at Naples and I'm not even a surfer, just a lover of the SB county coastline. This land should not be developed, it should be left wild.

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND
words and music by Woody Guthrie

Chorus:
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking a ribbon of highway
I saw above me an endless skyway
I saw below me a golden valley
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

The sun comes shining as I was strolling
The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling
The fog was lifting a voice come chanting
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.

Chorus (2x)

Why, wouldn't it be nice of these mega-developers (or any developer) to make friends with the locals and surfers who use these areas to at least leave trails for them to access the surf and coastline? Understandable is the concept of legal land owners, but nobody owns the ocean or shore, and more and more the Malibu mentality of private access is creeping up the coast. Which, in turn, leaves only those with water vessels to reach this stretch of shoreline. This mentality is what fosters hostility and divides us into the "us" and "them" camps. Sheesh, if I had the money to buy this property (I can only dream), I would find a way to leave access for all who wanted access to the beach rather than keeping it all to myself. If only I could buy that land...

This whole gaviota coast thing really seems like a joke with all this going on. It has turned into a drag race to build as much crap as possible all of the sudden and ban the EVIL surfers from getting to the surf. It is funny because Osgood and all these other dorks really think they are going to get secluded beach front privacy at thier palacial estates, they are high on crack. Surfers will get to the surf. What they will get in stead is another Rincon. I am sure that Coastal Access will be mandated sooner or later and the places will be abuzz with foot traffic. You can be sure that the new residents will be welcomed with open arms. NOT. They have had some pretty lame security down there for years. I have even heard stories of a machetti being pulled. Hopefully the powers that be have the nads to stand up to these creeps (developers) and get some good access instead of crap.

Season of love.

Over a dreamland
there's the sound
of a delicate
sadness, and over
the way there's
a light that
invites you to
discover the sun.

Francesco Sinibaldi

Trails were offered up during the planning commission meetings. Osgood tried to work with everyone. His job is not to please people that have not spent a dime on his land. I would bet that Osgood does not trample through all of the Anti-SBR peoples homes and Properties. Let the man develop his property. He has waited over 10 years. His land, his money. His right to build it out. Last time I checked, private property does not mean people suing him can use the trails.

It is sad to see the little bits of land that are left be concentrated into the hands of a few. I know it's their legal right, but, there are few beaches left and more people wanting access to them. When these mansions are built, there will be a need to hire housekeepers, gardeners and other lower income individuals to take care of these properties. Thus, now we'll need more affordable housing. This drives more people into the area, but hey, now there are fewer beaches for them to visit.

I see the side of the owners of the property too. If I owned it, I would look into a way to allow public access. But, sadly, I also know that as soon as someone trips, falls or gets hurt somehow, the owners could be sued -- especially if they are wealthy! Such is the nature of our society. Thus, even if the owner wants to contribute to society by offering up the beach for public access, there is the issue of liability.

What the hell does anyone need a 12,000 square foot home for? I find such a thing bordering on the morally reprehensible. I wonder if it's even going to be used by the owner as a primary residence?

Why don't they keep the trail as-is and put their cattle fences around the trail with a gate so the surfers don't mess with their markers and the builders still have access? That seems a lot easier and a lot more environmentally friendly that putting up a bunch of 12,000 watt lamps all night and paying for extra security. This is just ridiculous, I mean, is this the kind of stupidity that we're going to be seeing from these developers for the next few years?

I hope 150 surfers show up there on the next good swell and crash their stupid security party.

If the surfers have been using this trail for decades, then why doesn't Surfriders file a lawsuit on their behalf to legally establish a prescriptive easement?

However, even if that were to happen, the landowner is still liable for any injuries that occur on his or her property.

Rennergizer, is your first name Matt or your last name Osgood? temper temper....

Bimboteskie,
No temper here. Just the facts. Let me know how you would feel if you spent millions on a property, and a group of haters tried to stop your legal use of the property. Then you see death threats in a local publication, because you are exercising your legal rights. Let me know. I will say that if anyone wrote threats against me, I would find them, and give them the opportunity to follow through on the threats. This is getting out of hand. This is America. Remember the Freedom thing???? Mr. Osgood followed the law. And by the way, my last name is Renner. People need to worry about their own lives, not everyone elses. I am sure if the surfers were willing to work with the builder, something could be worked out. It is when they oppose, and try and take what they want, is when the door shuts. I would bet the door is currently shut.

Oh darn, they took away my last comment. It was a good one too. I will try to remember and rewrite. I am not sure why. Get back to you soon Rennergizer.

Yes, but hopefully the coastal commission will pop it back open for all of us. You will never convince me of he legal right over that land. He got his stuff thru on a technicality over the previous lots that should have been null and void. What was the vote 3-2? Sorry not buying it. I see that whole vote as a sham. I will say that death threats are weak sauce. While I may not like what he is doing, and probably not him all that much, being a bully lame in any respect, physically or economically. We are worrying about our lives. Naples has been a big part of a lot of peoples lives around here. This guy shows up, buys it, pulls a shell game with the lots and wants to build a mini Hollister ranch? I don't think so, Homey don't play that game. He is pulling the art of war negotiation crap. Setting the bar hi until the costal commission comes down on him which is inevitable. I kind of hope the county gets involved again some how with the new change in the roster. And here is one more point dude, I doubt he EVER had a decent parking spot and a little trail down to the beach for surfers in any plan. I watched the hearings. "ahhh, no that to severely have an economic impact as my higher end buyers value their privacy.... " Oh BS. It is because the developer is being a greedy pooh head.