For the second time in 2007, former New York City Mayor and presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani was in town to rake in more dough, but he also made a quick public appearance on State Street before heading out to Lancaster and Las Vegas for more fundraising.
Fresh off securing former California Gov. Pete Wilson’s endorsement this morning, Giuliani headed up to Santa Barbara, where he attended a private fundraiser at the Four Seasons Biltmore. Organizer David Lack said that about 225 people attended the event, and more than $100,000 was raised. Spotted in the crowd at the fundraiser were hosts Andy Granatelli and Mary Belle Snow, as well as Calvary Chapel pastor Ricky Ryan, actress Bo Derek, oil deep-diver Lad Handelman, and former Carpinteria City Councilmember Greg Gandrud.
Giuliani was running almost an hour behind schedule, but those in attendance didn’t seem worried, lunching on a taco salad with chicken, iced tea, and rolls. Granatelli got up on stage and had the crowd laughing, informing them he felt it was a good time to let everyone know that he too would be running for president. Granatelli was followed by comedian and talk show host Dennis Miller, who told the crowd that Democrats spend too much time trying to figure out how to solve the problem of greenhouse gases, and that he had solved the problem. “Just get rid of the greenhouses,” he told the audience. He went on to crack more jokes about Sen. Larry Craig and Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s recent visit to the United States. As Miller was speaking, Giuliani arrived from the lobby, and the crowd greeted him with a standing ovation.
During his 25-minute talk, Giuliani didn’t seem worried about competing with any other Republican candidates, but instead focused on the leading Democratic candidate, New York Senator Hillary Clinton. He told the crowd he didn’t get to listen to last night’s Democratic debate, but that he was “very disappointed” in what he read from the transcripts. “I’m very, very proud that I was a big figure in their debate,” he said. They all seemed caught up in his position on Iran, he said. Giuliani’s stance comes down to how to deal with tyrants, dictators and terrorists, and what you will allow them to do and what you won’t. “It’s very clear to me that Iran should not become a nuclear power,” he said. “Military option should not be taken off the table.”
Clinton, he said, was asked that what to do, and “she’s still answering that question,” he said to laughter. Despite being a lawyer and being good at language, he didn’t understand what she said. “I think what she said is that she wouldn’t make the commitment,” he said. “This is a new era in Clintonian speak. It doesn’t include a yes, it doesn’t include a no, it includes some vague indications of what she might or might not do.”
Barack Obama was asked the same question, and he said he would leave a military on the table, Giuliani said. The indecision of the candidates, he said, encourages the enemy.
Giuliani also tackled questions about immigration and the war in Iraq, and said that if Democrats are put in power, taxes will go up, and more control will go into the hands of the government. Later on, he said he doesn’t want to see a big civil work force, and that as government workers retire, he’d fill only 40 percent of the slots that open. He wants to end illegal immigration, and is encouraging Bush to erect a fence along the border with Mexico, money for which was allocated months ago, he said. “We’re not trying to hurt people,” he said later, “we’re trying to help.”
At Joe’s Café this afternoon, Giuliani rolled up in a black Cadillac CTS followed by a Cadillac Escalade at around 3:30 p.m. After talking with a few people outside the restaurant, he entered to applause from customers and workers. Giuliani, followed by a large throng of media, stopped at almost every table at the bar, signing autographs and taking photos. He slid behind the bar and posed with the bartenders, and also took some time to meet the cooks.
From there, he headed back outside for a quick stop to talk to media, explaining to them that his second stop in four months in Santa Barbara was because of California bumping its primary up to early February, making it a key state in the race for the presidency. “California is very important,” he said. “It’s obviously one of our big states.”
Giuliani’s visit to Santa Barbara marked the third by a presidential candidate in September alone. Lack, who is a state finance co-chair for Giuliani, hinted that he would be bringing the former mayor back to the South Coast again for a visit in January, before the February 5 primary. Democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich was in the Santa Barbara area all weekend, and fellow Democrat Barack Obama spoke at City College and attended a fundraiser at talk show host Oprah Winfrey’s Montecito estate in early September.
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What a loser. Rudy is a third rate hack politician that made numerous mistakes before and after 9-11. If he's the best the Repulican'ts have to offer, their party is doomed for a decade. How much credibility does Rudy have left? Most of the NYFD, NYPD and other hardworking men and women who protect the citizenry have labeled him a phony for years and absolutely DO NOT support him. He's all about posturing and using pat anti-everything rhetoric to try to frighten people into voting for him and his morally bankrupt party. Best way to think of him is a very thin and crossdressing version of Dick Cheney. Even though the Dems are on the take and the system is broken, its very clear that the fewer GOP candidates anywhere near government, the better.
emptynewsroom (anonymous profile)
September 27, 2007 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
He worked the crowd at Joes for 20 minutes.
Wow.
Such a man of the people.
FirstDistrictStreetfighter (anonymous profile)
September 27, 2007 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rudy has the best chance of becoming our next President. He has proven leadership abilities and is not an extremist. However, the most intellectual, capable, intelligent choice with great ideas for America and best of all candiates is Newt Gingrich. He has been vilified and slandered unmercifully in the past by the liberal left wing media. Why? Not just because he is a Republican but because he is logical, intelligent and rational. His Contract with America was very succesful. So successful that Bill Clinton signed onto the measures that he initiated and Congress passed! He then became too powerful and the media had to conduct a smear campaign against him. He is not a radical right wing Christian but a sensible conservative.
ricardo4max (anonymous profile)
September 28, 2007 at 6:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good day,
I am a life long resident of The Bronx, NYC and a retired member of the FDNY. Rudy Giuliani is the best thing that ever happened to NYC.
He took an out of control city and turned it into one of the finest cities in the USA. He cut crime and welfare dramatically. Perhaps civil service union leaders do not say good things about the "Mayor" but if you ask the rank and file union member "Rudy" is well liked and respected. He says what he thinks and will do what he says. In the world we live in we need a doer not a talked.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas Ziegler
Lieutenant FDNY (Retired)
flstplt (anonymous profile)
September 28, 2007 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ping to the LT.
rudy reorganized the nyfd and nypd gave them modern
equipment got rid of the slackers and affirmative action.
brought back the espirit de cor. before Rudy the nyfd
had jacketed hose plywood trucks rubber gear..
union doesnt like him ... they love slackers and corrupt
politicians
retired NJ firefighter....
mikey69 (anonymous profile)
September 28, 2007 at 6:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
with all due respect to retired lt. ziegler, the overwhelming majority of rank and file fdny union members do not like and respect rudy.
as to the nj firefighter comments, the motorola radios that were
being used by fdny on 9/11 were no better than the ones that were in use when the wtc was attacked in feb '93. the radios
proved to be a cause of a large loss of life in the north tower of wtc on 9/11, because many of the members did not receive the evacuation order on their radios.
also, rudy's decision to place the nyc emergency operations center in building #7 at the wtc complex was disastrous.
the emergency op center was evacuated after the planes crashed into the tower, thus there was absolutely no unified emergency command and control of any and all of nyc emergency response that day.
the iconic image of rudy walking on the street on 9/11 was only possible due to the fact that the emergency operations center was absolutely useless due to its proximity to the trade center. rudy and his crew were looking for a city building (precinct, firehouse, etc) where they could make phone calls, talk to the press, etc because they had no emergency op center.
stop (anonymous profile)
September 28, 2007 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Too bad I missed this big "cultural" event. Dennis-I-switched-my-politics-Miller and his glorious gas-bag, pseudo intellectual rap in favor of Rudy.
Rudy, you're a fascist fear-monger and all you know is "9-11" and "terrorism." What a one-note loser! Nothing else!
(If successful, wouldn't Rudy be the first person to jump from his first elected position as a city mayor to the office of the President of the United States?)
Goodhelp (anonymous profile)
September 28, 2007 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
He is a poulet-merd who cannot give a real speech, with more than two hours notice, to a public audience that he and his thugs cannot control.
FirstDistrictStreetfighter (anonymous profile)
September 28, 2007 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rudy oversaw police brutality at its worst, Abner Louima. He stood by the Police even though they were wrong.
Rudy was in charge when 9/11 happened. Thats not a good thing.
Rudy said it was safe to come back and many people were exposed to poisonous WTC dust.
Rudy Ghouliani is simply a bad man. He is also a career gun grabbing autocratic non-constitutionalist.
Rudy is hated by the NYPD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTYBTNog...
If Rudy knew the constitution, he would know as a Knight Commander , Order of the British Empire (KBE), he is forbidden to be President per:
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State."
Rudolph Giuliani gave working people plenty of reasons to hate him during his eight long years as mayor of New York City. But he left office at the end of last year a hero.
Time magazine named him 2001’s "Person of the Year"--for his performance in front of the cameras after the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center.
Giuliani may have come off as a human being during the tragedy. But his record as mayor tells a different story--that he helped to wreck the lives of thousands of people with eight years of racist and anti-poor policies and his unwavering support for New York’s murderers in blue.
New York schools have become some of the most overcrowded and run-down in the country. But Giuliani scapegoated teachers, refusing to raise their salaries even minimally without "merit pay." In 1995, he slashed the budget for the City University of New York--and then had police attack students who dared to protest.
When transit workers prepared to go on strike in December 1999, Giuliani threatened each transit employee with jail for just using the word "strike"--and a daily $25,000 fine if they walked.
Giuliani used "Quality of Life" laws to go after taxi drivers, street vendors, protesters, bicyclists--and basically anyone who showed signs of being poor. "Streets do not exist in civilized societies for the purpose of people sleeping there," Time’s Person of the Year once sneered. "Bedrooms are for sleeping."
But Giuliani’s most enduring legacy may be his support for racial profiling and police murder. From the hideous torture of Abner Louima in 1997 and the murder of Amadou Diallo in a hail of 41 bullets in 1999, Giuliani relentlessly supported the NYPD Black and Blue.
At the same time, Giuliani showered massive tax breaks on Wall Street and the corporations.
Corporate media outlets like Time may pay tribute to this monster. But Giuliani’s real legacy is eight years of racist scapegoating, police terror and attacks on education.
mickrussom (anonymous profile)
September 29, 2007 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So this is IT?...there is not one person in the Republican Party better qualified to be president? So what IS Giuliani's qualification over the other Republican candidates to win the nomination?
As for what he did for New York, would those policies be good nationally?
I remember hearing that crime went down in New York but at a cost to general civil liberties.
Also, I would have a real hard time voting for a guy whose son doesn't even speak to him per how he treated his son's mother.
He was in the right place at the right time and once again we have a person sitting at the head of a list of candidates based on name recognition.
Once again, the American electorate speaks.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
September 29, 2007 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Don't forget, Newt Gingrich (Like Rudy) dumped his wife, and did so when she had cancer!
One question for First District Streefighter: Does this mean you WON'T be contributing to Rudy's campaign?
billclausen (anonymous profile)
September 29, 2007 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/giuli...
From the look of things, the Republican Party is losing its base of conservative Christian voters. (I wonder if they have figured out that many previous candidates simply use them to garner votes?)
In either case, (with or without conservative Christian votes) I think Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 1, 2007 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Goodhelp" wonders: "If successful, wouldn't Rudy be the first person to jump from his first elected position as a city mayor to the office of the President of the United States?"
Why, yes he would; what's your point? Wasn't Bill Clinton the first bastard---er, sorry, meant to say "illegitimate..." or whatever word it is knee-jerk ACLU-supporting reactionaries prefer these days---to hold the office of President of the United States? The second to be called "Tricky Dick" (albeit not to his face or in print; just by the women who identified Hisself/described his uniquely shaped "manhood" in depositions).
Then "mickrussom" informs us Rudy "oversaw" the---horrific---Albert Louima police brutality case... As if Rudy wielded the business end of a plunger himself (or did he hold the poor man down; which was it? Surely you know, Mick; after all, you know what's on Rudy's family crest, all that stuff about the KBE----thanks for the bit of BRITISH/pip-pip trivia, by the way. Always nice to hear from another Anglophile)
By Mick and his ilk's, e.g., blue dog Democrats, "logic"...
(1) Louima was tortured by a few NYPD scum, so ALL NYPD officers are scum---or at least they were during the Giuliani administration, ergo (2) All Muslims all scum, because a handful of them bombed the USS Cole---during Clinton's administration, ergo (3) All Middle Easterners are scum, because a dozen+ of them perpetrated the worst terrorist attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor (which of course means that, if ole Mick and his ilk were around then, they agreed with their poster boy FDR that anyone of Japanese heritage was scum, and that sending them all to internment camps was a good idea).
Hmmm, I wonder if, say, a kneejerk reactionary was diagnosed with cancer the same time a conservative found the cure for it, would the reactionary cry foul; say the conservative must've stolen the panacea from, oh, I don't know, George Soros?; refuse to accept any treatment that was funded by "Big Oil" (or whatever catchphrase is in vogue at the time)?
Actually, I don't wonder; no time. Too busy hating anyone who looks Mexican and all that (goodness, he/she could be plotting La Revolucion!). And since the only good immigrant is a legal one, and there's no way to tell just WHERE these Brownskins allegiances lie by looking at 'em, well...
MadamPrez (anonymous profile)
October 4, 2007 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
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